Subject: Re: [harryproa] safely using Drogues and Para Anchors
From: jerry freedomev
Date: 2/14/2006, 3:31 PM

               Hi PC and All,
                      I see little reason to lay beam to the seas as uncomfortable and exposes your sides to the full force of the breaking waves, not smart. You will not catch me like that.  Using 2 at a time, even from different bows/sterns is asking for trouble entangling them also.
                     With multihulls you need to face the/a bow into the wind/waves for a comfortable, safe rest while the storm passes.  During one hurricane, I had to keep openning the hatch to see if the storm was still there it was so peaceful inside despite the 80mph winds outside.
                     Also using too large a drogue/para dia sea anchor just puts unnessasary forces on your boat. Around 6-8' on a 30' proa should be enough though every boat is different.
                   If adding up the lengths of proas designed, built, I'd be hitting about 120' so far. Cats I'm in the thousand feet+ range.
                  One of the best things about cats, tris and proas is you can anchor in open roadsteads in waves and be comfortable where in a monohull you will roll your guts out. This along with shallow draft makes these craft the best for serious cruising, live aboard that I did for 20 yrs.  My last was a proa and probably the next one too.
                    Is there a website with why Harry? does his Proas his way? I'm interested why he uses a much longer leward hull and would like to see his rudder arrangements.   
                  Intro,   I did Proas many yrs ago before they were cool, always admiring the Malibu Outrigger tacking Proa from the early 60's and after building many mono's/Cats/tris, seeing Russ Brown's first cruising proa just after it was built, I thought I could do better as usual and built a series of tacking proas that worked great. Steve Brown, Russ' brother and I built cats, tris , proas and other strange boats at the time together, 80's, in Key West, Fla, USA.
                  And yes both Steve and his brother Russ had a large advantage growing up with their father and his designing, sailing friends as they were like fish in the water, great on designing, building boats. 
                                            Jerry Dycus
proaconstrictor <> wrote:
Anyone have any ideas or experiences (second hand welcome) of drogues
or para anchors on pros?

The thing I like about the proa platform is that sometimes folks
carry both drogues and anchors, deploying one off the the stern and
the other off the bow.  Starting with the drogue and moving to the
para if conditions worsen.  This can lead to complications with
reversing the boat to get the para out even as conditions are ramping
up.  The obvious point being a proa is lonigtudinally symetrical, and
therefore one can throw the drag device off of either end.  The boats
and rig are also symetrically placed.

There may be bad news also such as the uneven windage on the hulls
once streaming the drag device.

Any thoughts about how this could work, broadly from attachment
points to lights to storage and deployment, all idea welcome?

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