G'day,
Getting the mast and materials from us, maybe the
beams as well will make shipping sense.
Good luck with the real estate.
Look forward to the conversation. :-)
The una, schooner or Easy rig will all be reasonably close in speed. Sail
area and most importantly, weight is what will make the speed difference.
Gotta admit, that since my una rig testing, I am now in favour of that over the
others, mainly for simplicity, weight and cost sake. However,
with relatively heavy windward hulls, it may still be a good idea to have some
sail in front of the mast. This is something we can test on the easy rigs
of Rare Bird and Bain's boat before anyone commits to a una.
regards,
rob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:29
PM
Subject: Re: [harryproa] Materials
list
That's Kiwi dollars. All I did was take the harrigami
list and add 10%, then I
went and priced the more expensive items locally.
For the rest I increased the
Harrigami price by the same proportion. At
this stage I assume there will be a
number of items it will be cheaper to
buy from Rob and ship, but haven't got
that far yet. Also there is a strong
argument in favour of Rob building the
mast. What I was after here was an
answer to "can I afford it?".
My personal situation now revolves around a
commercial real estate deal,
either it will be all go in 2-3 months or I'll
be in the poor house.
I also need to have a long conversation with Rob if
it does happen to try and
decide which permutation of Harry to end up with.
Currently (subject to
change) Harry in Kiri with the una rig (only one mast
to build, but is it
FAST?) I think if you are going to build something
radically different it has
to be very fast.
------ Original
Message ------
Received: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:30:05 PM MST
From: carlos
Solanilla <carlosproacarlos@yahoo.com>
To:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: Re: [harryproa] Materials
list
when you say $19.9K is is Aus or NZ? and is this procuring the
materials from
Rob's guys to be placed on a container or procuring the
matrials yourself?
thanks!!!
Prices do not include
tax, Total
sailing
$19,868.10
$26,949
oceanplodder2003 <dana-tenacity@usa.net>
wrote:
I'll try pasting it here,
format is lost but you should be able to
figure it out. Mast and boom
figures are pretty much a guess. This
leaves me a little room to manouvre
but not
much.
Prices do not include tax, or freight from
Perth.
plus10% in
$NZ NZ
Quote
Item
cost
8mm Paulonia sq
m
770
$920
1200
420 double
bias sq
m
984
1176
1320
6mm ply
sheet
80
95
112
440
gsm uni sq
m
120
143
172
9mm
ply
sheet
45
54
75
3.6mm
ply
sheet
30
36
33.75
4732.75
Resin
kgs
1320
1578
1820 Total to
this point $5118 or 28%
increase
polystyrene
slab
32
38
From here
added 28%
Glue powder 10
litres
17
20
thus
1802 x 28% =
2306
Filler powder 10
kgs
80
95
Suspect will
be hard to match ,
fiiler glue and paint prices from early investigations,
still looking
20 l (5.25 gals) epoxy
primer
200
239
16l (4.25 gals) lpu top
coat
256
306
trampoline
100
120
1 box short
screws
10
12
1 box long
screws
10
12
Rudder bearings
4*$35
200
239
Mast bearings
2*80
200
239
5
Sheaves
10
12
14m 8mm (5/16") alloy
rod
56
67
4 horn
cleats
8
10
3 medium cam
cleats
72
86
halyards 33m
(110') 6mm
(1/4")spectra
99
118
How high is
the
mast????
shrouds 18m (60') 8mm (5/16")
spectra
84.6
100
main sheet 16m (53') 10mm
(3/8)polyester
32
38
VB cord
10m
12.5
15
Carbon tow 60m
(200')
30
36
5118
Champagne for
launching
10
2306
Total for hulls and
beams
4,868.10
5804
7424
Build
mast,boom,rudders myself
professionally built
mast
7,000
8000AU=8700nz Plus
Shipping
boom
500
765
rudders
1,500
2300
3921
dacron sails/f/glass
battens
3,500
4500
plans
2,500
3250
Prices do not include tax, Total
sailing
$19,868.10
$26,949
19105
or freight from
Perth.
$19105 is my best guess if I do
everything myself,
excludes those things
noted.
NOTE
1) Consumables (sandpaper, jig saw blades, vinegar, gloves, brushes
and
rollers) are not included as the quantitiy used varies
between
builders.
2) Frame and set up material is not included. 5 sheets of 16mm
mdf,
plus 60m of 200x100 (200' of 4x2) cheap lumber should be
plenty.
3) Tools are not included. See article on Harry for what is
required.
4) We are working on a technique for amateurs to build the mast.
If
successful, this will lower the mast cost to $1,500, and the
overall
cost to
$14,500
Any questions, please ask. Any criticisms, or faults, let me know.
It
is far easier to fix things now than later (Contact
Rob).
Not
included
Antifouling
Electrical?
Hatches
Windows
Stove
Toilet
(bucket)
Outboard
Foam, bunks
How do you attach
tramps?
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