G'day,
Well said!
regards,
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:05 AM
Subject: [harryproa] Re: Aerodynamics and sailing performance
Hello Mike,
Thanks for your time and effort of your take on the comparison.
To me the comparison and what I believe single outrigger shunters
are your last paragraph sums it up. Single dominate hull shunters
are in a new class by them selfs with as good or better performance
than most of the off the shelf cats and tris on the market today.
Knowing that at any length wind speed or better can be achieved with
the least amount of equipment, least amount of weight, least amount
of sail, least amount of stress and strain on hull and float. Mybe
thats why as Rob said some builders/ designers have stopped
answering on price. It would be a shame for proffesional builders
getting beat on the water and in their pocket books on a craft that
can do it better at 1/10th the coast and 1/10th the materials. Are
they realizing the market of a craft once made from pile of
vegetation built with a keen sense of how nature works that sailed
circles around other craft of thier day and into the future.
On production line boats I'd never own one are you kidding me talk
about least of this an that, and the use of materials not really
designed for the water... polyester resin come on.
So now they charge for performance of the craft A sad spiral down
the tubes for proas.
Todd
--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Mike Crawford <jmichael@...>
wrote:
>
> Todd,
>
> It's nice to see some boats for comparison. The Reynolds and
Wharram
> are both great boats at what they do, but aren't really great at
what
> the harryproas do. I'll write up a quick comparison, and will also
> include a Farrier F36, which is probably the closest thing in
terms of
> apples and oranges.
>
> Reynolds
>
> As you said the price has increased. The original $33,000 didn't
> include sails or rigging, so the number was deceivingly low even
at the
> time. The finished boat with a trailer was closer to $70,000 to
> $90,000. But now they are closer to $140,000. That's a lot of
money
> for a boat without a double berth or standing room.
>
> That's also probably the price of a custom-built Harry. The
Harry <A title="harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au" href="mailto:harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au">harryproa@yahoogrou<WBR>ps.com.au</A>
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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:36 PM</DIV>
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RE: [harryproa] Help drawing the mast section</DIV>
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<DIV class="MsoNormal"><SPAN class="SpellE"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;COLOR: navy;FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">Doug</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;COLOR: navy;FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">,<O></O></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;COLOR: navy;FONT-FAMILY: Arial;"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;COLOR: navy;FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">If you are going
to make a <SPAN class="SpellE">wingmast</SPAN> we can send you a drawing of
a 300 mm chord Clark Y for you to print and use as a template for your
mast section.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;COLOR: navy;FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">Would you taper
the mast along its <SPAN class="GramE">length ?</SPAN> Tell <SPAN class="SpellE">uss</SPAN> how <SPAN class="GramE">much
?</SPAN><O></O></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><SPAN lang="EN-GB" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;COLOR: navy;FONT-FAMILY: Arial;">Best
regards,<O></O></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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harryproa@yahoogrou<WBR>ps.com.au
[mailto:harryproa@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com.au] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold;">Namens </SPAN></B>doha720<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold;">Verzonden:</SPAN></B> woensdag 28 juni 2006
13:34<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold;">Aan:</SPAN></B>
harryproa@yahoogrou<WBR>ps.com.au<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold;">Onderwerp:</SPAN></B> [harryproa] Help drawing
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<DIV class="MsoNormal"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size="3"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;">Hi,<BR><BR>I want to find something on the <SPAN class="GramE">internet</SPAN> that shows a mast section so <BR>that I can
print it and scale it to form the molds. <BR>Rob mentioned something about
length 3 x width.<BR>I found something one time and made rudders and <SPAN class="GramE">fins</SPAN> on some site. <BR><BR>Ta
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