Subject: [harryproa] Re: Performance in wind and swells
From: "Todd" <snyder2016@earthlink.net>
Date: 3/9/2007, 4:36 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

That open sixty looks pretty minimal to me. Nothing extra just whats
needed to do the job.

I don't see Robs 12 and 15s flying windward hull. I don't think that
was part of the intended design. I Would like to see how it handles
similiar conditions though.

The thrill is finding away to due it with less and with less
effort...

Todd

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Mike Crawford <jmichael@...>
wrote:
>
>
> That's a great video link.
>
> The best price I could find for a similar Open 60 (18 meter)
trimaran
> was about $800,000US:
> http://www.boats.com/listing/boat_details.jsp?entityid=11911551
>
> I'd have to say this is beyond the scope of a minimalist boat,
as well
> as beyond the 15m proas Rob designs. I don't think you'll see
any of
> the boats sailing like that in the same conditions. Flying a hull
in a
> boat that size is only for the very skilled, and only if they also
> happen to have the finances to rebuild the craft when it gets
pushed too
> far.
>
> With that said, you might be able to build a 25m Visionarry
Sport for
> half the price of the boats in the video, and have the benefit of
an
> additional 7m of length for both speed and stability.
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
> Todd wrote:
> >
> > I'm also curious as to how well the 7 and 12 meter boats will
ride
> > and at what speed in winds 22 to 28 knots with swells of 3-6
meters?
> >
> > When do we get to see a video of one sailing in similiar
conditions?
> >
> > I don't just want to survive I want to be sailing fast and
balanced.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZDS3miKQCc
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZDS3miKQCc>
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> > <mailto:harryproa%40yahoogroups.com.au>, "Rob Denney" <proa@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > G'day,
> > >
> > > Sorry thought you meant the big boat. At some stage, you will
> > meet a wave big enough to pitchpole you if you sail down it flat
> > out. The longer the boat, the less likely this is to happen. I
> > have only done it once, that was on the river in 20+ knots with
the
> > schooner rig. This was more wind than waves. I would have no
> > qualms about sailing sensibly in the Perth seabreeze and offshore
> > waves in Elementarry, but would be a bit careful if I was racing.
> > Perth waves develope in an afternoon, so they are shorter, closer
> > together and steeper than trade wind waves which tend to be
swells.
> > These give longer rides, with less work and less chance of piling
> > into the back of the one in front.
> > >
> > > Can't sail Sunday, got to pick up people from the airport.
Maybe
> > Monday, and if it works, certainly next weekend, either in Perth
or
> > Mandurah.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Rob
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Doug Haines
> > > To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> > <mailto:harryproa%40yahoogroups.com.au>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [harryproa] Reducing sail with boom out over the
> > water.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > > You're talking about the transpac?
> > > I mean extra buoyancy for me when I start flying down waves
into
> > the trough!
> > > You have the experience, what's the sea handling diffrence
> > between sizes like vis to har?
> > > Would the waves you might ride out here in a seabreeze, be the
> > same as say the waves in the trades?
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > (any chane you'll be going sailing on Sunday?)
> > >
> >
> >
>

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