Have a look at these in fairly flat water pushed to the limit.
http://www.youtube.
--- In harryproa@yahoogrou
>
> That open sixty looks pretty minimal to me. Nothing extra just
whats
> needed to do the job.
>
> I don't see Robs 12 and 15s flying windward hull. I don't think
that
> was part of the intended design. I Would like to see how it
handles
> similiar conditions though.
>
> The thrill is finding away to due it with less and with less
> effort...
>
>
>
>
> Todd
>
>
>
> --- In harryproa@yahoogrou
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That's a great video link.
> >
> > The best price I could find for a similar Open 60 (18 meter)
> trimaran
> > was about $800,000US:
> > http://www.boats.
> >
> > I'd have to say this is beyond the scope of a minimalist boat,
> as well
> > as beyond the 15m proas Rob designs. I don't think you'll see
> any of
> > the boats sailing like that in the same conditions. Flying a
hull
> in a
> > boat that size is only for the very skilled, and only if they
also
> > happen to have the finances to rebuild the craft when it gets
> pushed too
> > far.
> >
> > With that said, you might be able to build a 25m Visionarry
> Sport for
> > half the price of the boats in the video, and have the benefit
of
> an
> > additional 7m of length for both speed and stability.
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > Todd wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm also curious as to how well the 7 and 12 meter boats will
> ride
> > > and at what speed in winds 22 to 28 knots with swells of 3-6
> meters?
> > >
> > > When do we get to see a video of one sailing in similiar
> conditions?
> > >
> > > I don't just want to survive I want to be sailing fast and
> balanced.
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.
> > > <http://www.youtube.
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > --- In harryproa@yahoogrou
> > > <mailto:harryproa%
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > G'day,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry thought you meant the big boat. At some stage, you will
> > > meet a wave big enough to pitchpole you if you sail down it
flat
> > > out. The longer the boat, the less likely this is to happen. I
> > > have only done it once, that was on the river in 20+ knots
with
> the
> > > schooner rig. This was more wind than waves. I would have no
> > > qualms about sailing sensibly in the Perth seabreeze and
offshore
> > > waves in Elementarry, but would be a bit careful if I was
racing.
> > > Perth waves develope in an afternoon, so they are shorter,
closer
> > > together and steeper than trade wind waves which tend to be
> swells.
> > > These give longer rides, with less work and less chance of
piling
> > > into the back of the one in front.
> > > >
> > > > Can't sail Sunday, got to pick up people from the airport.
> Maybe
> > > Monday, and if it works, certainly next weekend, either in
Perth
> or
> > > Mandurah.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Doug Haines
> > > > To: harryproa@yahoogrou
> > > <mailto:harryproa%
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:44 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [harryproa] Reducing sail with boom out over the
> > > water.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Rob,
> > > >
> > > > You're talking about the transpac?
> > > > I mean extra buoyancy for me when I start flying down waves
> into
> > > the trough!
> > > > You have the experience, what's the sea handling diffrence
> > > between sizes like vis to har?
> > > > Would the waves you might ride out here in a seabreeze, be
the
> > > same as say the waves in the trades?
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > > (any chane you'll be going sailing on Sunday?)
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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