Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Easy boatbuilding,
From: "Rob Denney" <>
Date: 4/22/2007, 10:12 PM
CC: "aaMichele Balharry" <>

OK fellas, this subject is now closed.   You want to keep it going, do it off list.
 Derek has said he did not steal anything and I believe him.   
We are about to start on a very exciting project, and I would like this list to be the place where it is all discussed.  This is not possible if we are bickering about unlikely events 30 years ago.
Jerry, if there is anything you don'r understand about my boats, post a question. 
----- Original Message -----
From: jerry freedomev
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Easy boatbuilding,

Hi Jim and All,

--- Jim Shanahan <> wrote:

> --- In, jerry freedomev
> <freedomev@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Jim and All,
> >
> > --- Jim Shanahan <jameshanahan@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Jerry,
> > > this is a serious charge to make, especially on
> an
> > > international
> > > forum. You are potentially impacting not only
> > > Derek's livelyhood but,
> > > more importantly, his reputation.
> >
> > What is, is!
> Facts are facts, true enough. And opinions are
> opinions. The
> conclusion you draw from facts, as you state them,
> may or may not be
> true.

That's your opinion. I was there.

> What is apparent, though, is that you haven't made
> your case. You
> haven't shown that your design was stolen; that this
> can be the only
> possibility.

It takes a great leap of faith to believe it
was a coincidence. Maybe he forgot our talk but was
still in his subconcience but in such a short time,
that's doubtful. Either way my ideas were used.
As he said and I agree, it happens all the time
getting ideas from everywhere.

> > And it's not that serious except to
> designers
> > like Rob with a marketable product. Should I not
> warn
> > him, others?
> I am gratified that you are now of late concerned
> for Rob's financial
> wellbeing. However, I feel your concern is
> unwarranted as Rob is in
> the habit of broadcasting his ideas well in advance
> of his final
> design or technique. This is well known.

Not to me like his rudders, ect parts, details.
I still don't understand some of them as no detail on
his website.

> > Have you never stolen an idea? Be honest.
> No, I have not stolen someone else's idea and
> claimed it as my own and

;^P So you are perfect?

> I am sure there are many people like me in this
> regard.

As someone who took 140 teens, many others
thought processes apart and and helped them remold
themselves into much better people as a group therapy
leader. I can garrantee you everyone has borrowed,
copied, stolen, whatever you want to call it, ideas.

> > There are those who admit it and those who lie.
> Does this include yourself?

Of course.

> As I don't admit to stealing, I must not only be a
> thief but a liar as
> well according to your thinking.

Your words. You be the judge. Many like to
forget, ect, things they don't want to remember.
For how much regular people can delude
themselves, just look at religion. Only one can be
right of how many? No?
Or look at how Bush managed to convince enough
people to start the Iraq war. People believe what they
want to believe reguardless of facts many times,
especially about themselves.

> You are responding to my email so it is more than
> reasonable to assume
> this comment is directed at me (as well as others,
> perhaps)

> I want an apology.

I'd have to have something to apologies for

Jerry Dycus

> Jim

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