Subject: [harryproa] Re: Rare Bird Sailing
From: "Todd" <bitme1234@yahoo.com>
Date: 8/8/2007, 10:40 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

No I don't think a flared bow would be any better.It would be worse.
The boat doesn't look to be sailing flat. It looks to me to be
heeled 5 to 7 degrees maybe more in the video. To me the leeward
hull just seems to shallow at the ends. In the 1 metre swell the bow
is punch through on a few all most buried. The video shows pretty
sedate sea state and the boat looks all ready to be pushing its
limits with the leeward hull low in the water. Along with the
appendage attachments. Load of rudders horizontally and vertical in
proper trim but what about at speed, 20knots being pounded
vertically hour after hour. In and out wave after wave?

Good at 15 knot winds 15 knot boat speed but what at 20 to 25 knots
in lumper seas?

Todd

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Robert" <cateran1949@...>
wrote:
>
> The boat looks as though it is riding pretty flat to me . With 3m
> swell I am assuming the bow will simply punch into it and gently
rise
> without any violent hobby horsing. The flat ride should keep the
sails
> working better than with violent motion of a flared bow bouncing
off
> waves I can't think of any small boat that would not be pretty wet
in
> the same circumstances. The braces are designed to take the loads
of
> the rudders. Shock loads from the braces hitting the top of the
wave
> is nothing compared to loads from the rudders,
> Robert
> --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Todd" <bitme1234@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Todd" <bitme1234@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Rob and folks, (sorry about that)
> > >
> > > Nice video, impressive. But;) Looks like 1 metre swell
possible in
> > > 15 knot winds for a boat speed of 15knots . Marshall Island
Walap
> > > will do that. What about 25 knot winds in 3 metre swell? Looks
as
> > > throught the bow is pretty close to the edge in 15 knots. As
far
> > as
> > > all out performance pushing the boat to the limits what is
known?
> > >
> > > What about the braces for the weather boards, how much abuse
will
> > > they handle being punched from underneath or swist from
changing
> > > angle of attacks in certain situations. The bottom brace seems
> > > really close to the water surface.
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > G'day,
> > > >
> > > > My Harry did 15 in 15 with lousy sails, but not much
interior,
> > so
> > > probably
> > > > pretty similar. Blind Date will be faster than Rare Bird as
it
> > is
> > > lighter,
> > > > has less windage and a stiffer mast. Rare Bird's sails also
> > need
> > > some work,
> > > > it has not realised it's full potential yet.
> > > >
> > > > The only real difference in a Harry is whether you have the
> > > cockpit cover or
> > > > not. Bain has it and it works well. I prefer to feel the
> > breeze,
> > > so the
> > > > solo boat will have a pram type fold up cloth cover over
part of
> > > the cockpit
> > > > for keeping out of the rain and wind.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/8/07, George Kuck <chesapeake410@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > How will the 12m (40') Harry (built with the KSS
method)
> > > performance
> > > > > compare to Rare Earth or Blind Date ? Will it have
> > a "cruiser"
> > > or "sport"
> > > > > version option or be a compromise between the two ?
> > > > >
> > > > > George Kuck
> > > > > Chestertown, MD
> > > > >
> > > > > *Robert <cateran1949@>* wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It is pretty impressive for such a comfortable boat. Even
> > with
> > > the
> > > > > extra weight it is still pretty light compared to most
> > > multihulls of
> > > > > similar length,
> > > > > \ Robert
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au <harryproa%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com.au>, Mike
> > > > > Crawford <jmichael@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fifteen knots in fifteen knots of wind? In Rare Bird?
Holy
> > > moly!
> > > > > >
> > > > > .
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