Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Rare Bird Sailing
From: "Rob Denney" <harryproa@gmail.com>
Date: 8/12/2007, 1:33 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

G'day,
 
Mark and his son had been living and working on it for 5 days, so food and tools and usual gear would have been onboard.  Near enough cruising trim.  How much more powerful?  Depends on what you want.  For most cruisers 15 in 15 is ample. It could probably handle another 30-40% of sail to be compromised.  Depends also on the stiffness of the mast, which is a variable that can be set before launching.
 
regards,
Rob

 
On 8/12/07, Todd <bitme1234@yahoo.com> wrote:

Whats the windward hull load capacity. In the video is Rare Bird at
cruising trim or light?

How much more powerfull could it get before compromise?

Todd

-- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Todd" <bitme1234@...> wrote:
>
I wonder was the boat
> loaded or light for the short trip?
>
>
> Todd
>
>
> --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/10/07, Todd <bitme1234@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure the reverse sheer is something to get used to. .8 pc is
> pretty
> > > great. Looks to me the bow gets depressed a few inches from
the
> top
> > > towards the end of the video clip. I like the piercing
ability.
> Just
> > > looks low on the water over all. I counted 12 times on the
video
> of
> > > the rear rudder brace stuffing in the waves before camera
panned
> > > away.
> > >
> > Obviously the rudder set up is draggier than if it was in the
hull.
> > However, the advantages of no holes in the hull, kicking up,
> lifting up,
> > seeing when weed is on it, outweigh the little bit of extra
drag,
> for
> > cruising. Solitarry has the rudders on the beams. If this
works
> as well as
> > it does on Elementarry, we will look at putting them on all the
> bigger
> > boats.
> >
> >
> >
> > I was referring to 5 to 7degrees of heeling or more and with
the
> > > leeward hull allready buried the boat seemed to be almost at
its
> > > limit. Pitching is not what i'm looking for . My opinion with
> proas
> > > you can over power a hull with out great pitching right to the
> edge
> > > then oops over you go.
> > >
> >
> > I find there is a fair bit of time before flying a hull becomes
a
> capsize.
> > It is difficult to tell, but the windward hull looks to be
showing
> about
> > 6"/150mm of antifouling, of which about 2"/50mm is boottop.
That
> hull draws
> > 12"/300mm so there is a fair bot to go before it flies.
> >
> >
> > > I'd like to see them with out exterior appendages and sit a
> little
> > > higher in the water at speed.
> > >
> >
> > Me too on the appendages, wait till you see Solitarry! Sitting
> higher just
> > means more windage, assuming it is not burying the bow. Be
> interesting to
> > find out where the limits lie. Latest A class cats have bows
> which come to
> > a point at the waterline, when viewed from the side. Apparently
> they are
> > doing well.
> >
> > Rolling? No different to a similar size cat. Need to try it
out
> in some
> > big beam seas, but no reason why it should be a problem.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob
> >
>


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