Subject: RE: [harryproa] Re: Changes
From: "Jim Baltaxe" <>
Date: 3/18/2008, 12:01 AM

Hi Rob, Mark (if you're still here)

A quick question which might resolve a great deal of the apparent tensions here: Would Mark consider building a Harry on contract? Would you consider asking him to? 

I can understand his need for regular jobs and income while you are driven by your personal mission (of which you already know I am an enthusiastic, if broke, supporter). This might be a way of demonstrating or even creating a constructive business environment.

Jim Baltaxe

They said, get a life. I looked on TradeMe but I couldn't find one. 

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Rob Denney
Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 2:31 p.m.
Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Changes

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Nikki 
<> wrote:

As a complete outsider who was considering buying the 
biggest proa I 
could get made, I have to admit I am extremely thrown off by this.
I saw you in sail magazine, as I am sure many others did. 
The website 
could have had more videos and inside views.
I am all for sailing something which might be looked upon as a bit 
kooky, but when you see this kind of crazy going back and fourth it 
makes you wonder if the business will go the way of the dodo bird 
before your boat is built.

I am only offering a suggestion here but I would remove the 
group link 
from the website.
Anyone who joins here immediately sees that there is 
massive tension 
and that things are not going well. (EVEN IF THAT IS NOT THE ACTUAL 

I am not going to buy a Harry Proa now, though I was very 
in seeing more about them. Also the clips off the front and not the 
entire ship, and the tiny weenie one going back and 
fourth... lets see 
a big one in full not just from out the bow.

It's unfortunate that one cannot step outside and see the 
big picture.

You want to instill a tremendous amount of confidence when 
people are 
handing over their money.
This is not the way to do it.
Especially for something so unique.

I will be unsubbing from the group now, but best of luck to 
all of you...
״ )
.. ) .*)
*~ Nikki ~*`...`


Thrown off by what?  The lack of videos and some fall out 
from a personal email being published on the chat group?  
You've got to be kidding.  If this "threw you off" there is 
no way you would have been able to put up with the comments 
of your fellow boaties when you bought a proa.

To address your points.
1) The chat group is a wonderful place to discuss the boats.  
Everyone is welcome to talk harryproas and sailing generally. 
 The knockers are especially welcome as they make us think of 
new ways to overcome actual and percieved weaknesses.  It 
will stay linked from the web page.
2) The lack of videos is a function of the cost and hassle of 
getting them.  Jan on Blind Date will be working on that this summer.
3) People can be entirely confident when they hand over their money.
The boats are well engineered and sound.  Any tension that 
was in the business has been dissipated by two of the three 
people leaving.  It is now a one man band, with all the 
pluses and minuses this involves.
The business is also sound. It now has near zero outgoings 
(web page rent is about all, I do not need to make any money 
from it except to fund my next iteration of the design) and I 
have poured heart and soul (and a lot of money) into 
harryproas for 10 years, so am definitely not going anywhere 
just as they start to become popular.

Hope this puts your mind at rest.  If you do read this, 
please return and participate in the forum, I would like to 
discuss this with you some more.



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