Subject: [harryproa] Re: harry gami.
From: "captian_rapscallion" <>
Date: 5/20/2008, 12:03 PM


I was thinking of a proa designed to be the ultimate trailer sailor/
racer cruiser. Although the boat will probably be kept in a slip,
(meant for a monohull) I really like the idea of a true trailer
sailor, meaning a sail boat that can be launched almost as easily as a
fishing boat. I think the Rio Hondo 40 is a good example of such a
boat. (it's a bit big, but I like his line of thinking. My ideal would
be capable of being pulled by an ordinary car. I was also hoping it
would telescope to about 8'6" for the trailer and the mast(s) would be
easily set up by one person quickly. I'm willing to give up a bit of
performance for ease of setup and tear down. I live 5 to 6 miles from
the launch ramp. I really don't have a maximum trailer length, just a
weight limit (type II trailer hitch. Nothing weird to report about the

Accommodation: I was hoping for standing headroom and a fully enclosed
head, a very modest galley, sitting headroom for the bunks is ok. I
was just hoping for some more permanent than a pop top. The two week
trips would be once a year for 2 people. I'm currently doing such
trips with a laser 28. The boat would be located on Lake Michigan, and
will hopefully race there, (CHI MAC would be nice) I would also like
to take it to Florida for the Occasional Key West Race is possible.
Lake Michigan is cold and can get pretty rough, so it would be nice to
have a seat out of the cold in addition to the cockpit seating if
possible. I live in the fresh water surfing capital of the world to
give you an idea of how rough.

Gear weight for the trips would hopefully be minimal. I would be
stopping at Marinas in the evening for water and possibly fuel. I
would think 100 lbs of food and gear would be more than enough, and 2
people at 150 lbs each. I like the idea of an electric motor instead
of a gas one, simply because I have always fought an exhaust leak on
my laser 28. It would be nice to not have to worry about that.

As far as performance goes, I am hoping for a fast boat. I'm willing
to give up some speed to gain convenience, but it will spend most of
it's life racing. I simply want a comfortable ride while racing, you
know, for the wife :)

--- In, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@...> wrote:
> G'day,
> Sure can. I would use the same basic methodology as I am using on the
> telescoping mast on Solitarry.
> Harrigami was complicated as I thought the mast and ballestron had to be
> raised and lowered with the boat on it's side. There are easier
ways. The
> 12m/40' cat 'W' that I built a few years ago had a beam which varied
> 4m/13' to 7.5m/25' and could be expanded/contracted by one person.
> I need to know a little bit more about exactly what your
requirements are,
> maybe email me off list (or on list if you want everybody to add their
> sixpence worth) and we can discuss it.
> The questions are:
> Maximum trailerable length? This will be longer if it is a once a
year trip
> from home to the slip, and shorter if you want to use it as a trailer
> sailor.
> "Traditional slip" width?
> How often will you be trailering it?
> Are there any launching/retrieving ramp peculiartities?
> How much gear you need for two weeks? Either a list, or a best guess
of the
> weight will do for preliminary drawings.
> How much comfort do you need. ie, is a two burner cooker, sitting
> in the bunk, comfortable cockpit seats enough, or do you need more than
> this?
> Motor requirements?
> Electrical requirements?
> What is your sailing area? More importantly, how sunny and how cold
is it
> likely to be?
> Any thing else that may be of interest.
> regards,
> Rob
> I also like the Seabattical design, not so much because of it's
looks, which
> are way down the list of characteristics I like about boats, but
because it
> fulfills it's requirements so well. The first of these was low cost
> high on the characteristics list).
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM, captian_rapscallion <
> captian_rapscallion@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I like the elementary design, and the harrygami design. I was
> > wondering if a design that had a cabin with standing head room and
> > accommodation for a two week trip for a couple would be possible in a
> > proa designed to "fold" using a sliding mechanism that would allow the
> > proa to be moored in a traditional slip and be trailered easily.
> >
> > I also really like the seabattical design.
> >
> >
> >

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