Subject: Re: [harryproa] Teaser plans
From: "Rob Denney" <harryproa@gmail.com>
Date: 6/4/2008, 12:25 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

G'day,

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:25 AM, Gardner Pomper <gardner@networknow.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Excellent! I am thrilled! Are you ready for me to send you money (extended
> version for 300lb crew)?

Paypal me the money and I will extend it.

> In terms of the rudders, I am not going to sail this hard. I have absolutely
> no interest in trying to fly a hull or capsizing, so I am guessing that the
> biggest danger to the rudders will be grounding, instead of sailing stress.

Maybe, but I think you will be missing out on a lot of fun (and
expereince) if you don't fly the hull and push it as hard as you can.
I have some unstayed folding masts to build for a couple of 43' cats
using the same method. Guess if we can make it work on them, we can
make it work for rudders.

> While I do keep stressing how I want a "fast" boat, this is really to make
> it sail better in "normal" winds; not really to see how fast I can make it
> go.
> Will these plans be suitable for me to try my hand at vacuum infusion? Also,
> I expect that it will be quicker and cheaper for me to substitute local
> materials instead of shipping from Australia, but I thought I recalled you
> saying that polycore is not available in the US. Let me know your thoughts
> on what I should do there. My preference, if not excessively expensive or
> slow, is to let someone else do the hard work of selecting all the materials
> and have me buy the package from a single source (excessively lazy, you
> know).

I can relate to lazy! Polycore is no good for infusing. You can hand
lay it and vacuum bag it, which gives you a nice snooth finish, then
flip it over and repeat on the other side. Probably quicker, less
waste, but more mess. If you use foam you can infuse it. You could
try Nidacore, instead of Polycore, but they do not have the high
strength version, and there were some independant tests done (can't
find them, they were on a forum) which showed it to be of lower
"quality", without actually defining what quality was. My advice?
Use foam, glass, resin and additives from you local supplier. If you
infuse, talk to them about what is required, use it for a small
sample, then look at how you can do it with hardware items instead of
marine ones. I can post you the tow and the pultruded rod if you
include the money for them and $20 postage with the plans money.

> I'm psyched!

Me too. I have just ordered the materials to build the 16' ter myself.

regards,

Rob
> - Gardner
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> G'day,
>>
>> Drawings and description of a harry for learner builders and sailors
>> is in the files under harry for beginners.
>>
>> Gardner, I appreciate that this is not what you were expecting, but
>> once I had the rig and rudders sorted, it became the boat for my
>> daughter and her mates for next summer and anyone else who wants to
>> experience proas or simple building without forking out to much money
>>
>> It will scale up to whatever size windsurfer rig (let me know mast
>> length and sail area) you care to put on it, and for the same price i
>> am happy to sell you, or any other of our more substantial members
>> the plans for an extended version. I am not particularly confident
>> about the rudders with a maxi rig and big crew so you may end up with
>> fixed rudders. Having said which, it should be just a problem of
>> wrapping more tow round it so I am very tempted to build one for
>> Elementarry and see how it works.
>> As usual, comments and questions welcomed.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Rob
>
>

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