Subject: [harryproa] Doug bought new plans
From: Doug Haines
Date: 6/5/2008, 2:44 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

Hi gang,

 

Since Rob is modest I'll announce that I bought some new plans (for a Harry size) boat.

A few others have bought plans recently, so that's good. A link to each documented project should go on the Harryproa website.

What's up with the web help offers. Some one could update things to get an official latest developments without wading around here.

 

Doug 

--- On Wed, 4/6/08, Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: maxi sailor and rudders
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Wednesday, 4 June, 2008, 1:29 AM

The sleeved rudders are growing on me. Wait and see how Blind Dates
work and I will see how they go on the trailer boat. May also see
how strong the kid's boat kick up rudders could be built.

Agree about the joys of climbing over midriffs vs heads! I always end
up on the inside and find it easiest to go through the hatch and check
the anchor while having a pee over the side (hate marine toilets).

The Beowulf article was interesting, but there is so much windage and
turbulence on their deck, exacerbated by the angle of heel, I struggle
to believe it makes that much difference. The fast that they had
North's involved, but there has not been any other developement makes
me wonder too. It remains on my "to be tried" list, although this
has just sprouted a 16' harry at the top so it won't be for a while.
regards,

Rob

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
> -I didn't realise they took a full 2'. Still, 18' width on a 25' ww
> hull is still pretty good. Always add wings if you really want to push
> things and the weather isn't too nasty.
>
> About the foot locker and sideways: If you leave a slight in the cabin
> between the bunk and the cockpit back and have a step in the bevel,
> the person on the inside clambers over the midriff of the other person
> instead of their head. It would probably be preferred by most couples
> after their initial honeymoon period.
>
> I believe I have felt a surge in power as the slot closes but it may
> be my imagination as there is a different feel to the wind. The skinny
> hull may negate much of the benefit, but from what I have read, the
> most important part is the initial 1/3 of the sail. Clear material
> such as on EL could be used below the boom. I recall there was some
> stuff on this on the Beewoulff site(Excuse spelling)
>
> -- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@. ..> wrote:
>>
>> G'day,
>> I thought about the rudders on a sleeve, maybe later when everything
>> else is working. They lose 2' which is a bit much for most marinas, I
>> think.
>>
>> Foot lockers are a good idea, but the limit on this boat was cockpit
>> size, so there is no real gain. Either way, the person on the
>> inside has to do some clambering.
>>
>> Closing off the sail foot may (I am not convinced by the windsurfers
>> as they only seem to do it in a breeze, when balance factors may enter
>> into it) reduce the tip losses, but a una rig boom is rarely on the
>> centreline so with a skinny hull it would not achieve much. It also
>> kills visibility to leeward. It is one of those very simple things to
>> test that i have never got round to. Any real life data would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Robert <cateran1949@ ...> wrote:
>> > If the rudder supports were on a sleeve, the beams could still be
>> > pulled out through the ww hull and have beam mounted rudders. You
>> > would only lose 30cm of squeezing for the marina. I still reckon a
>> > foot locker and sleeping sideways would give much easier access to the
>> > berths. Have you considered a battened sail extension below the boom
>> > to close off the slot. On a wsurfer you really notice the difference
>> > when you close the slot. Apart from that, I reckon it is v. nice and
>> > should go like the powers of
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>



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