Subject: Re: [harryproa] Doug bought new plans
From: "Rob Denney" <harryproa@gmail.com>
Date: 6/5/2008, 4:02 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

G'day,

Not modest, just flat out. The update is written, I am just puting
togather the pictures, then Youri and Myriam (Belgian Elementarry
builders) will be putting it up.

regards,
Rob

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Doug Haines <doha720@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
>
>
> Since Rob is modest I'll announce that I bought some new plans (for a Harry
> size) boat.
>
> A few others have bought plans recently, so that's good. A link to each
> documented project should go on the Harryproa website.
>
> What's up with the web help offers. Some one could update things to get an
> official latest developments without wading around here.
>
>
>
> Doug
>
> --- On Wed, 4/6/08, Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: maxi sailor and rudders
> To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> Date: Wednesday, 4 June, 2008, 1:29 AM
>
> The sleeved rudders are growing on me. Wait and see how Blind Dates
> work and I will see how they go on the trailer boat. May also see
> how strong the kid's boat kick up rudders could be built.
>
> Agree about the joys of climbing over midriffs vs heads! I always end
> up on the inside and find it easiest to go through the hatch and check
> the anchor while having a pee over the side (hate marine toilets).
>
> The Beowulf article was interesting, but there is so much windage and
> turbulence on their deck, exacerbated by the angle of heel, I struggle
> to believe it makes that much difference. The fast that they had
> North's involved, but there has not been any other developement makes
> me wonder too. It remains on my "to be tried" list, although this
> has just sprouted a 16' harry at the top so it won't be for a while.
> regards,
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
>> -I didn't realise they took a full 2'. Still, 18' width on a 25' ww
>> hull is still pretty good. Always add wings if you really want to push
>> things and the weather isn't too nasty.
>>
>> About the foot locker and sideways: If you leave a slight in the cabin
>> between the bunk and the cockpit back and have a step in the bevel,
>> the person on the inside clambers over the midriff of the other person
>> instead of their head. It would probably be preferred by most couples
>> after their initial honeymoon period.
>>
>> I believe I have felt a surge in power as the slot closes but it may
>> be my imagination as there is a different feel to the wind. The skinny
>> hull may negate much of the benefit, but from what I have read, the
>> most important part is the initial 1/3 of the sail. Clear material
>> such as on EL could be used below the boom. I recall there was some
>> stuff on this on the Beewoulff site(Excuse spelling)
>>
>> -- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@. ..> wrote:
>>>
>>> G'day,
>>> I thought about the rudders on a sleeve, maybe later when everything
>>> else is working. They lose 2' which is a bit much for most marinas, I
>>> think.
>>>
>>> Foot lockers are a good idea, but the limit on this boat was cockpit
>>> size, so there is no real gain. Either way, the person on the
>>> inside has to do some clambering.
>>>
>>> Closing off the sail foot may (I am not convinced by the windsurfers
>>> as they only seem to do it in a breeze, when balance factors may enter
>>> into it) reduce the tip losses, but a una rig boom is rarely on the
>>> centreline so with a skinny hull it would not achieve much. It also
>>> kills visibility to leeward. It is one of those very simple things to
>>> test that i have never got round to. Any real life data would be
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Robert <cateran1949@ ...> wrote:
>>> > If the rudder supports were on a sleeve, the beams could still be
>>> > pulled out through the ww hull and have beam mounted rudders. You
>>> > would only lose 30cm of squeezing for the marina. I still reckon a
>>> > foot locker and sleeping sideways would give much easier access to the
>>> > berths. Have you considered a battened sail extension below the boom
>>> > to close off the slot. On a wsurfer you really notice the difference
>>> > when you close the slot. Apart from that, I reckon it is v. nice and
>>> > should go like the powers of
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
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