Subject: Re: [harryproa] First pass at 12' beam for slip and restricted trailering
From: "Gardner Pomper" <gardner@networknow.org>
Date: 6/24/2008, 10:17 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

Hi,


I was also wanting to ask you about the rudders. Can they be mounted this far to windward? Basically at the centerline of the boat? It simplifies the collapsing and lets me set up wheel steering, I assume.

- Gardner

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com> wrote:

G'day


>
> I still have some concerns. If anyone has opinions on them, I would love to
> hear them.
>
> 1) This is a Visionarry size boat (32' ww hull, 50' lw hull) with only a 20'
> beam. How will
> that effect the sailing. My primary sailing conditions are 5-10 kts. I
> rarely sail in winds
> above 15 and almost never above 20.

20' should not be a problem Hull flying wind should still be above
20 knots.

>
> 2) Where do I store the tender when the boat is collapsed in a slip?

On the cabin top, on the marina, or tied up astern.

>
> 3) How do I get aboard the boat from the water?

Fold down ladder, ramp or part of the tramp. Could also have steps
recessed into the lee side of the lee hull, which helps getting on and
off at the marina.

>
> 4) My 2nd double is difficult to access. I have planned an opening hatch in
> the cabin roof,
> but that is awkward and potentially a source of leaks.

Decent hatches don't leak, and there should not be solid water hitting
it so you will get away with less than an expensive one. The
awkwardness is a function of jamming a lot into a small space. Unless
you regularly plan to have plenty of visitors, I would use a deck tent
or a motel for the extras. 6 people sleeping on a boat is easy. 6
people living on a boat for any length of time is not.

Schooner rigs are great, but almost twice the cost and work of a
single rig. Ballestron fits in the middle somewhere. Schooners are
great on reaches, which is where you will most often be sailing, less
good upwind, except in decent breeze. They also make shunting easier
the first few times, after which it is simple no matter what rig you
have. Whether you can get enough sail area with a sub 65' mast will
depend on the weight of the boat. Trailing a 65' mast is a lot more
drama than trailling two x 50' masts. 2 x 40' masts will fit in a
container. Telescoping or two piece masts will solve both of these
problems. Decisions, decisions!

regards,

Rob
>


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