Subject: [harryproa] Re: cats/tris/proa poll on sailing anarchy
From: "fitzgeraldskhayyam" <omarkhayyam@operamail.com>
Date: 11/15/2008, 5:01 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

G'day, I too would like to see more videos, but that isn't what sold
me.

I was actually looking for info re Trimarans.
As soon as I saw the Harry boats I realised I'd been on the wrong
track. I had focussed on the displacement/bouyancy angle and
completely forgotten all I'd learned dinghy sailing.

Once I got the 'shunting' thing straight there was no going back.

This is intelligent design.

Just thought I'd add this in.

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@...>
wrote:
>
> G'day,
>
> Your wife is right. We had huge plans for videos of Rare Bird,
> including a helicopter. Then Johnny (owner) died and it was all
over.
> Blind Date would be even more impressive and Jan (owner) has
> employed someone who is making a video of the whole thing, from
start
> to finish, including an interview with the designer. They lost last
> summer for various reasons so the sailing shots did not get done.
> Bain has developed other interests so nothhing has been done with
> Aroha. I may be sailing on RB in a fortnight. If I do, I promise
to
> take a video camera and get some shunts and look for a narrow
channel.
> Unlikely there will be a race, but if there is, I will try to
> convince Col to enter.
>
> I am nowhere near any of these people so cannot just grab their boat
> and go and shoot a movie.
>
> I am a full time dad, so most of my sailing has been done from 10-2
> during the week. Difficult enough to find a crew (one of the
> reasons the schooner rig was abandoned on Elementarry), much less
one
> with a boat and a video camera. Plus a little proa would not cut
the
> mustard with people wanting a big one.
>
> I did not shoot the RB video, and had no control over it. I am very
> grateful we have it, or it would be much worse.
>
> The SA doubters don't believe anything I say, nor the video.
However,
> each time I get in a thread like this, visits to the web page go up
> and a commission or three usually follows. It amazes me that people
> tell me to go away, then ask a whole bunch of questions about the
> boats. Hopefully raps' boat will be sailing next summer and things
> will change.If he is, I am picking that we will be a lot more than
12
> boats ahead in 2 years.
>
> Re Pacific or harry. Harriette is the smallest harry (5m/15'). It
> and elementarry (7.5m/25') are sailed from the ww hull with rudders
> and unstayed marconi rigs. Pac proas are sailed from the lee hull
> with paddles and crab claws , with people moving outboard as
required.
> Lots of room for mixed messages, but as they do not have a cabin,
not
> much i can do about it.
>
> regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Charlie Magee
> <charlie@...> wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > I've been nudging at you for years for videos. At one point I had
my wife
> > pretty close to
> > flying to visit you . . . then we went for a ride on an F-27 and
she didn't
> > want to wait. Your
> > pictures showed her a weird looking boat (to her eyes, though I
could see
> > the beauty). She
> > actually said: "If he's not confindent enough to post a video,
there must be
> > something
> > wrong."
> >
> > Lots of those guys on SA are hard-core racers. The extent of their
> > willingness to try
> > something new goes about as far as switching to a new brand of
spinnaker
> > sheet because
> > it might give them a 1/100th knot speed boost. Your boats are a
whole new
> > category of
> > brain function.
> >
> > You gotta admit, that vid of Rare Bird scooting along is nice,
but not even
> > a shunt?
> >
> > They're wanting vid of tight starts, making the windward mark,
> > short-shunting up the
> > channel. And so on.
> >
> > My hunch is that you would be two years and 12 boats further
along if you
> > had posted
> > such videos the day after a decent Harry launched. A day after
Rare Bird
> > launched.
> >
> > Charlie Magee
> > Eugene, Oregon
> >
> > --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@>
wrote:
> >>
> >> G'day,
> >>
> >> I agree about the paucity of good videos and other marketing
stuff on
> >> the boats.
> >
> > snip
> >
> > I am not sure how much help they would be. The Rare Bird video
says
> >> it all about straight line speed, ease pof sailing, lack of bow
down
> >> trim, flexible masts and uncluttered deck space, yet I still get
to
> >> argue these on a regular basis. Anyone who sees that video and
then
> >> argues they are slow will never be convinced.
> >
> > snip
> >
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >
> >
>

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