Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: cats/tris/proa poll on sailing anarchy
From: "Rob Denney" <harryproa@gmail.com>
Date: 11/15/2008, 12:26 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

G'day,

Your wife is right. We had huge plans for videos of Rare Bird,
including a helicopter. Then Johnny (owner) died and it was all over.
Blind Date would be even more impressive and Jan (owner) has
employed someone who is making a video of the whole thing, from start
to finish, including an interview with the designer. They lost last
summer for various reasons so the sailing shots did not get done.
Bain has developed other interests so nothhing has been done with
Aroha. I may be sailing on RB in a fortnight. If I do, I promise to
take a video camera and get some shunts and look for a narrow channel.
Unlikely there will be a race, but if there is, I will try to
convince Col to enter.

I am nowhere near any of these people so cannot just grab their boat
and go and shoot a movie.

I am a full time dad, so most of my sailing has been done from 10-2
during the week. Difficult enough to find a crew (one of the
reasons the schooner rig was abandoned on Elementarry), much less one
with a boat and a video camera. Plus a little proa would not cut the
mustard with people wanting a big one.

I did not shoot the RB video, and had no control over it. I am very
grateful we have it, or it would be much worse.

The SA doubters don't believe anything I say, nor the video. However,
each time I get in a thread like this, visits to the web page go up
and a commission or three usually follows. It amazes me that people
tell me to go away, then ask a whole bunch of questions about the
boats. Hopefully raps' boat will be sailing next summer and things
will change.If he is, I am picking that we will be a lot more than 12
boats ahead in 2 years.

Re Pacific or harry. Harriette is the smallest harry (5m/15'). It
and elementarry (7.5m/25') are sailed from the ww hull with rudders
and unstayed marconi rigs. Pac proas are sailed from the lee hull
with paddles and crab claws , with people moving outboard as required.
Lots of room for mixed messages, but as they do not have a cabin, not
much i can do about it.

regards,

Rob

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Charlie Magee
<charlie@signaldesign.net> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> I've been nudging at you for years for videos. At one point I had my wife
> pretty close to
> flying to visit you . . . then we went for a ride on an F-27 and she didn't
> want to wait. Your
> pictures showed her a weird looking boat (to her eyes, though I could see
> the beauty). She
> actually said: "If he's not confindent enough to post a video, there must be
> something
> wrong."
>
> Lots of those guys on SA are hard-core racers. The extent of their
> willingness to try
> something new goes about as far as switching to a new brand of spinnaker
> sheet because
> it might give them a 1/100th knot speed boost. Your boats are a whole new
> category of
> brain function.
>
> You gotta admit, that vid of Rare Bird scooting along is nice, but not even
> a shunt?
>
> They're wanting vid of tight starts, making the windward mark,
> short-shunting up the
> channel. And so on.
>
> My hunch is that you would be two years and 12 boats further along if you
> had posted
> such videos the day after a decent Harry launched. A day after Rare Bird
> launched.
>
> Charlie Magee
> Eugene, Oregon
>
> --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Rob Denney" <harryproa@...> wrote:
>>
>> G'day,
>>
>> I agree about the paucity of good videos and other marketing stuff on
>> the boats.
>
> snip
>
> I am not sure how much help they would be. The Rare Bird video says
>> it all about straight line speed, ease pof sailing, lack of bow down
>> trim, flexible masts and uncluttered deck space, yet I still get to
>> argue these on a regular basis. Anyone who sees that video and then
>> argues they are slow will never be convinced.
>
> snip
>
>> regards,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
>

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