Subject: [harryproa] Re: How wide are monohull slips?
From: "jjtctaylor" <jtaylor412@cinci.rr.com>
Date: 11/20/2008, 10:48 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

That's what I found covering Elizabeth City to Wilmington NC. There are some, like
$225,000 at New Bern, although more typical 1.5 times a mono slip, iF you can find one.
THink there is one at Oriental city dock. Waitlist most everywhere else that can handle a
wider beam. Doesn't seem to be a huge issue to berth as transient on end dock, but
many will not have services out there, so bring your own power.

I bought a lot for retirement, will have a marina slip made special at only $1500/foot near
Oriental.

I haven't checked south of Wilmington yet, but in mid-atlantic seems to be the situation.
New games states are playing with city owned mooring fields, and legislation to control
runoff has really slowed new marina construction. Have to buy you own water access lot
to somewhat guarantee a slip or right to put down a permanent mooring. Even that can be
problematic as the state may restrict your right to modify the shoreline for any dockage.
My marina waits for state approval, (1) year wait so far,... May have to tie up at the
Oriental city docks for a while. But think mine weird enough, someone will help with a
locale.

JT

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Gardner Pomper" <gardner@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have been sending emails to marinas in the Annapolis, MD area and also
> visiting a few slightly north of there. The responses so far indicate that
> most all 50' monohull slips will accomodate a 16' beam. After that it starts
> to get less common. I have found a few that will accept a boat up to a 19'
> beam. Finding a slip for a beam beyond 20' is really, really hard in the
> Chesapeake. Generally, I have been told, you need to find a marina with 2
> monhull slips and pay to get the diving pilings removed, and pay again to
> get them put back and then pay for 2 slips. There are very, very few mooring
> fields available, and most all the T-docks are already taken up with the
> growing number of cats in the area.
>
> Travel lifts are also a restriction. I have found that the older marinas
> tend to have ones only 17' wide, but there are a couple around that can haul
> a boat with a 24' beam (max).
>
> This is reinforcing the idea I have been playing with, to make a liveaboard
> harry with a 24' beam (was 26, but I just reduced it <grin>) that will
> collapse to 16' to store in a marina. That would be another huge advantage
> for the harry design over the existing catamarans in the Chesapeake, anyway.
>
> Thanks for all the feedback. I will keep trying to expand my sample of
> marina to see if the same holds true in other places along the east coast of
> the US.
>
> - Gardner Pomper
> York, PA
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Paul Wilson <opusnz@...> wrote:
>
> > In some countries you pay by the berth length, not the boat length. In
> > New Zealand, for example, many marinas will have 10, 12, 14 or 16 meter
> > berths. If your boat was (for example) 14.5 meters (45.9 feet) you will
> > be charged for a 16 meter berth. A good argument to keep a boat less than
> > 14 meters.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bellingham Marine seem to be building a lot of marinas all over the world.
> > You might want to contact them and see what their standard sizes are…..
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.bellingham-marine.com/products/index.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Paul
> >
> > *From:* harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au]
> > *On Behalf Of *carlos Solanilla
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:43 AM
> > *To:* harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> > *Subject:* Re: [harryproa] How wide are monohull slips?
> >
> >
> >
> > Gardner
> >
> > I think width is something you can always work with the marina - you can be
> > at the end slip for example.
> >
> >
> >
> > Be careful that most marina will take their yard tape and measure your boat
> > to the nearest feet and charge you accordingly
> >
> >
> >
> > A 50 ft long lw hull will cost you a lot for a slip in most places but on a
> > mooring field is a different story so it might be a good idea to build a
> > good dinghy (make it a catamaran) and plan to go back and forth - will be a
> > lot cheaper at the end
> >
> >
> >
> > my 2 cents
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Gardner Pomper <gardner@...>
> > *To:* harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:20:56 AM
> > *Subject:* [harryproa] How wide are monohull slips?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I continue to play around with my ideas for a 50' liveaboard, ocean
> > crossing harryproa. I have a layout where it may be feasable to collapse the
> > boat to a 16' beam. I realize that I don't actually know if that helps. Is
> > anyone familiar enough with monohull slip dimensions to know if a resonable
> > percentage of 50' long slips can accomodate a 16' beam?
> >
> >
> >
> > I am primarily interested in marinas along the east coast of the US, but
> > would also like to know elsewhere in the world.
> >
> >
> >
> > For those in the world with a rational measurement system, I believe I am
> > talking about 15m length and 5m beam (roughly).
> >
> >
> >
> > With my design, it is not something you would do for a transient slip, but
> > if you need to leave the boat for a month, or liveaboard in a marina, it
> > might be helpful.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Gardner
> >
> > York, PA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>

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