Subject: [harryproa] Another layout submitted for review
From: "gardnerpomper" <gardner@networknow.org>
Date: 12/5/2008, 8:10 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

Hi,

I just cleared out the "Gardner's Layouts" directory of the Files section of this group and
replaced the contents with the latest drawings I have for a layout that I would like to get
some feedback on.

>From speaking to the Admiral, it seems unlikely that I will get permission to sell the house
and take off for a life of cruising. I have therefore scaled back my preferred liveaboard
design to something that can fit in a standard (hicube) shipping container, yet still provide
cruising amenities for a family of 3-4 for a few weeks.

There are a few features I would be particularly interested in getting feedback on. Fitting a
boat like this into a container while sitting on its trailer is a tight squeeze. Since the
preferred building technique is bending large flat panels, one issue is the tolerances of
dimensions for the final boats. Assuming that a professional builder (I am thinking the
chinese yard Rob is currently dealing with), if the design calls for a boat that collapses to
7'6", how likely is it that it will end up at 7'7" or even 7'8"? An inch or two may make all
the difference in terms of getting it through the container door.

Another question deals with maneuvering the trailer. Is it reasonable to think that one (not
me, some other one) could back a 39' boat, 7'6" wide into a 39'6" container, 7'8" wide? Is
that really enough margin?

The aspect ratio of the sails is another question. With the schooner rig, I am hoping to
keep the masts at 39'. The boom will be about 9' from the bottom, so I could have a 30'
luff, and a 10' foot. With a full roach, I am thinking I might get 225 sq ft per sail, or 450
sq ft overall. Is this adequate? Is the rig too squat to work well?

I gather from other discussions that the chinese version of Rapscallion is estimate to run
about $30K. I am hoping to bring this in just a little over; maybe $40K. Any opinions on
my rationality?

Thanks for any feedback!!

- Gardner Pomper
York, PA

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