Your cutout in the leeward hull has really grown on me. If done
well, it makes four nice additions to the Harry design:
1) Allows for a larger cockpit while collapsing down to a smaller
beam.
It definitely works for the Contrarry and containerization, but
there's no reason why it has to stop there. I'd like a 7' cockpit with
seats long enough to become narrow berths, and/or sit a number of
people in comfort while dining, but that makes a 12' collapsed beam
difficult if you add on another 6' to 7' for the windward and leeward
hulls. This way you could shrink a 50' proa down to a 12' beam, and
still have a huge cockpit.
2) Creates a less-exposed way to get on and off the boat from a dock.
Assuming the leeward hull is along the dock, now there's a place
to step on at deck level, with handholds. This could even work when
collapsed. Most convenient, especially for non-athletic guests.
3) Provides a somewhat protected area to work on sails or booms.
It wouldn't be as protected as the main cockpit, but it would
beat trying to stand on the leeward hull for long periods of time. You
could easily put a door or lifelines across the opening in order to
make it more secure, and do so without messing with the nice proa lines.
4) Allows for a second leeward cockpit with the addition of some
waterproof beanbags or closed-cell foam cushions.
The netting is obviously the place to hang out while whiling away
warm summer days at eight knots. But there's also something to be said
about a second deck-level semi-protected area where people can sit
and/or relax. One more space means fewer people feeling as if they are
on top of each other.
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Pretty much the only thing I'd change would be to round the leeward
end of he cockpit at least slightly, and then round the cutout in the
leeward hull to match the shape. It wouldn't add anything in terms of
strength or functionality, but it would soften the lines a bit. As
long as it's a gentle curve it should still work well with the infused
panels.
I'd probably want to do the same thing with the leeward side of the
windward cabins. They wouldn't have to be as curvaceous as the
original strip-planked designs, nor wold they need compound curves.
But even a foot or two of curve along the deck level would make the
boat look a lot sleeker.
In any case, that cutout is turning out to be quite nice. It may
only work for schooner rigs, but since that's what I've been planning
on, I like it.
- Mike
gardnerpomper wrote:
Hi,
I just cleared out the "Gardner's Layouts" directory of the Files section of this group and
replaced the contents with the latest drawings I have for a layout that I would like to get
some feedback on.
>From speaking to the Admiral, it seems unlikely that I will get permission to sell the house
and take off for a life of cruising. I have therefore scaled back my preferred liveaboard
design to something that can fit in a standard (hicube) shipping container, yet still provide
cruising amenities for a family of 3-4 for a few weeks.
There are a few features I would be particularly interested in getting feedback on. Fitting a
boat like this into a container while sitting on its trailer is a tight squeeze. Since the
preferred building technique is bending large flat panels, one issue is the tolerances of
dimensions for the final boats. Assuming that a professional builder (I am thinking the
chinese yard Rob is currently dealing with), if the design calls for a boat that collapses to
7'6", how likely is it that it will end up at 7'7" or even 7'8"? An inch or two may make all
the difference in terms of getting it through the container door.
Another question deals with maneuvering the trailer. Is it reasonable to think that one (not
me, some other one) could back a 39' boat, 7'6" wide into a 39'6" container, 7'8" wide? Is
that really enough margin?
The aspect ratio of the sails is another question. With the schooner rig, I am hoping to
keep the masts at 39'. The boom will be about 9' from the bottom, so I could have a 30'
luff, and a 10' foot. With a full roach, I am thinking I might get 225 sq ft per sail, or 450
sq ft overall. Is this adequate? Is the rig too squat to work well?
I gather from other discussions that the chinese version of Rapscallion is estimate to run
about $30K. I am hoping to bring this in just a little over; maybe $40K. Any opinions on
my rationality?
Thanks for any feedback!!
- Gardner Pomper
York, PA
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