Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Rare Bird racing - Doug in Dongara
From: Doug Haines
Date: 2/18/2009, 11:19 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

Robert,
 
I was going to stop in Dampier and come back down the way I came up but during a different season, when sea breezes have stopped and troughs stop forming along the coastline, so as to get more nrhterly NE-NW, and all day easterlies.
Considering outboard motoring through the calms you get too.
 
Reverse stem would be no different on our lw hulls as they are so narrow up at the front.
 
Boatbuilding is a condition to outsiders, sure you are diagnosed properly?
 
Doug

--- On Sun, 15/2/09, Robert <cateran1949@yahoo.co..uk> wrote:
From: Robert <cateran1949@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [harryproa] Re: Rare Bird racing - Doug in Dongara
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Sunday, 15 February, 2009, 8:32 PM

-Not sure when you plan to move past Dampier. I'd be tempted to wuss
out and put the boat on a trailer and take a short cut to Karratha.
There is another month or two or three before the dry comes in. I
appreciate the discomfort of bumping in a small boat as I came across
Torres Strait heading SSW in a Sou-easter in 6 fathoms of water in a
home built tri the same length as Side Car. I was very happy with 6
knots made good. It made me appreciate having a bow bulb to reduce the
pitching and one reason I am a bit of a pain pushing reverse stems.

I have stalled on the Harry boat except for refining what I want. I
think the boat will be a little better for the sifting through the
compromises but that doesn't make up for the years not sailing.
Unfortunately I have a domestic situation that demands higher
priorities. I am slowly accumulating the money, but can only work part
time because of a neurological condition that sometimes wipes me out
for a few days at a time. If I hadn't come down with it there would be
a good chance of having it well on the way. I am also expected to
build a house down the coast after I finish a bathroom that rotted out
from a leaky shower. Just put in two windows in the bathroom today so
I figure I am a little closer to the boat. She who must be obeyed is
getting ready to retire in the next year or so and wants a house on
the coast before a boat. If I can get the house built in reasonable
time and cost, she would feel more comfortable about putting some
money up for the fittings. I just about have enough to build the boat
to lock up so hopefully in the next couple of years when living full
time down the coast with enough room to build. -- In
harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Doug Haines <doha720@... > wrote:
>
> Robert,
>  
> & hours sitting rolling, chopping, bumping in an onshore breeze to
Geraldton.
> My info says nw is likely winds straight across the open sea,
doesn't sound like the sort of thing I had in mind.
> Shark Bay, Ningaloo behind barriers sounds OK as far as Dampier.
> Coming back from Darwin a e/se trade will be off from the shore.
> You can try the passage out and let us know how you go. (seriously
Robert, when are you going to start your boat?)
>  
> Doug
>
> --- On Fri, 13/2/09, Robert <cateran1949@ ...> wrote:
>
> From: Robert <cateran1949@ ...>
> Subject: [harryproa] Re: Rare Bird racing - Doug in Dongara
> To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 2:23 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Doug,
> The dry is easy sailing to Darwin. After that is on the nose. The
> hard part is heading into the cyclones round about now. You have a few
> days warning to get bunkered down. The stingers really look quite
> beautiful. I used to watch them rounding up small fish as active
> predators.
>
> --- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Doug Haines <doha720@ > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >  
> > Delayed  a day in Dongara, depending on winds could be in Geraldton
> tommorrow.
> >  
> > What are you doing to my poor rudders Rob! They aren't meant to be
> stood on..
> > How did it sit capsized? Did the mast sit on the top of the water?
> >  
> > Send photos later.
> >  
> > Saw a stingy looking Jelly fish while becalmed out a few miles.
> >  
> > Lovely reef shoals to sail over the top of. Only clipped rudder on
> one patch. Mostly 1-4m deep. Would be different story in winter with
> swells breaking for mile out to sea.
> >  
> > Coast changes from here without much island/reef/ banks.
> >  
> > Maps is learge scale so is always a bit of a surprise to get there
> and see what is actually there. Some great bays that are too small to
> tell from the map, but would have made a good overnight stop to aim
> for the day before.
> >  
> > Sould probably be stopping at Dampier and flying home for the change
> of seasons.
> > This was always in mind.
> > Small boat sailing takes it out of you.
> > Still need to see what things are like later on.
> >  
> >  
> > DOug
> >
> > --- On Thu, 12/2/09, Rob Denney <harryproa@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > From: Rob Denney <harryproa@ ..>
> > Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Rare Bird racing
> > To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> > Date: Thursday, 12 February, 2009, 3:21 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > G'day,
> >
> > Suspect he will let us know when he gets to Geraldton, assuming he
> > stops there before the trip to the Abrollhas. If he does, can one of
> > you web experts download and update a map showing where he has been
> > and where he is going?
> >
> > Went sailing with two kids (20 and 25 kgs, plus my 85) on harriette
> yesterday in
> > 5-10 knots of breeze. Boat went well. I have put a pin through the
> > end of the tiller extensions and drilled corresponding holes in the
> > beams so the front rudder can be locked in the straight ahead
> > position. Solved the leeway problem and makes shunting easier. The
> > kids shunted with ease.
> >
> > It is very easy to point too high and get into irons. Would be easier
> > to tell when this was imminient with a non fully battened sail. Tell
> > tales on the sail would also help. Easy enough to get out of, just
> > push the sail to leeward and steer backwards until you are beam to
> the wind,
> > sheet on and go sailing. Much more definite than frantically waggling
> > the tiller which is what happens when beginners point too high in
> > conventional boats.
> >
> > Also capsized it with all three of us on the leeward hull. Easy
> > enough to right, but the two girls were not quite heavy enough and
> > could not get out far enough on the rudders, not helped by their
> > incessant giggling and deliberately falling off! I
> > will add a couple of ropes to hold onto under the beams so they can
> > get further out on the rudders.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk>
> wrote:
> > > Great news. Cross fingers there aren't any problems getting it
ready.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if Doug would like his journey known on SA or
Cruising
> > > Forum.
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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