Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: contrast Rare Bird with gunboat
From: andrew fennell
Date: 2/28/2009, 3:16 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au


I think what you get with a gunboat is 2 of Dick Newick's famous tryptic:

ie Speed and Accomodation

The price you pay is, well, the price you pay! You also (I imagine, not having seen one close up) probably get a superb quality production boat finish (as opposed to a poor production boat finish -I'm sure we've seen plenty of those) and probably superb back up in terms of after-sales....ok I'm guessing now!

Trying to compare a gunboat to a harryproa for me is not really viable (my opinion - no offence Robert!) They are just so different, Rob Denney's concept -I believe- is much more about the other Newick configuration

ie Speed and Low-cost

coupled with build-simplicity (definitely not a newick quality) and system-simplicity...

I'm not saying that Harryproa's don't have accomodation - they do but not on the scale of the gunboat..

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I'll leave this with an interesting question:

If you had gunboat money would you spend it on an all-carbon supersize-harryproa or a gunboat. (Answers on the back of a fag-packet down the pub please!)

andyf
ps hello Mr Denney, hope all is well - congrats on getting the first boats done in china, no mean feat!



2009/2/28 Robert <cateran1949@yahoo.co.uk>

I love Rare Bird and suspect it might have the best motion and I get
seasick, but would be glad to be on any one of them



--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Doug Haines <doha720@...> wrote:
>
> I hear that the Gunboat is a normal cat but all carbon so expensive
and quicker?
> Still you could save weight in areas other than hull material, etc.
Chucking stuff out for a race like water, fuel gear would change .
> Hope HP's are going to try  hard in B-G.
> Which of the popssible 3 boats over there would you want to be on?
> HArigami might be fun.
>
> --- On Sat, 28/2/09, Robert <cateran1949@...> wrote:
>
> From: Robert <cateran1949@...>

> Subject: [harryproa] Re: contrast Rare Bird with gunboat
> To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> Date: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 12:16 PM
>
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>
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> Looking at the sailing performance of the gunboat recently, I was
> disappointed in its speed on a close reach. I have been hesitant to
> compare one to a Vis, but I suspect that a Vis could outperform it in
> similar conditions, being better able to maintain drive in choppy
> conditions. I also suspect that many of the Australasian performance
> cruisers would do at least as well at less than half the price. Cross
> fingers for at least one entry in the Gladstone race to see how the
> performance compares.
>


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