So rudders failed again. See Rare Bird first test sail from Harryproa.com http://www.harryproa.com/building_Vis/images_Jan2006_2/FirstSail/11.htm   It seems like rudders still are major problem in big proas. Loads can be huge. Handling those loads is easier with rudders mounted in the hulls even though it brings other problems. I look forward to Arttu's experience this coming season with visionarry and hull mounted rudders.   Let's hope Rob and others can solve those rudder problems soon.   Arto --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Robert <cateran1949@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: Robert <cateran1949@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: [harryproa] rare bird. To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 2:28 PM Rare bird suffered a corroded rudder post. It was supposed to be stainless 3.6.1. The posts are going to be replaced with carbon ones. The owner reckons it was remarkably comfortable at 13 knots in a bit of a sea

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