i think you can have a big foresail, by having a nother jib track back further on the main boom, plenty of overlap. good idea about different weight cloth going up a sail. diff. battens or tensions sounds right, i see the battens really bending round when i reef down in fresh winds, which is when the sail shoud actually be flatter - so stiffer battens then mmight help it stay flatter and not so full in shape. btw would the bigger overlapping jib make the luff /head stay go even more saggy? how lee efficient is the easy rig's sagginess causing? is this a reason for some preferences to uni or schooni?   doug --- On Fri, 24/4/09, Gardner Pomper <gardner@networknow.org> wrote: From: Gardner Pomper <gardner@networknow.org> Subject: Re: [harryproa] Light air sails and multihull comparison To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au Date: Friday, 24 April, 2009, 12:12 AM Hi Mike, > >   Note that the visionarry rig is 860 sf, and the rig on my theoretical > Harry is 755 sf, so it's a bit smaller. > Did the Rob change the Visionarry rig after the website stopped being updated, because it is listed at 774 sq ft on www.harryproa. com/visionarry. htm, which I figured is close enough to your numbers. Btw, I am not against just using a taller mast. Regardless of how big I make the sail plan, I am going to have to have a mast that comes apart into 2 sections to fit in a container. a 39' mast, with the boom 9' up will never give me enough sail area. What are the boom dimensions you are using to get that sq ft of sail? I am just exploring alternatives. Maybe it is time for Rob to hop in and just remind me that I am an idiot and I can switch to some other silly idea <grin> - Gardner

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