Subject: Re: [harryproa] SA/D and Bruce number calculator
From: Rob Denney
Date: 4/23/2009, 10:55 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au



G'day,

No, it's not. The geometric centre of the sail is what is
traditionally used, but it is an approximation, not the centre of
effort. The coe moves around a fair bit depending on the point of
sail, mast size and shape, sail shape and wind strength (especially
with unstayed rigs, big roaches and jibs on unstayed masts). For
getting started after sheeting on a big roached (probably oversheeted
as the sheeting is set for higher apparent when the boat is moving)
mainsail on an easy rig it can be 75% or more aft. If the mast is
big diameter, with the topping lift strapped on hard to make the jib
work well and the top of the main flag, coe can move ahead of the
mast.

regards,
Rob

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Gardner Pomper <gardner@networknow.org> wrote:
>
>
> I can calculate the center of gravity of a triangle, just by adding
> the x coordinates and dividing by 3; then do the same with the y
> coordinates. Is that they same as the center of effort?
>
> - Gardner
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM, barrie lyall <protocomposite@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Re Cof E, Simple one, if I remember correctly or correct me if i am wrong.
>> Make a paper scaled pattern of the sail and find the centre balance point
>> with a pin.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 4/23/09, Mike Crawford <jmichael@gwi.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Mike Crawford <jmichael@gwi.net>
>> Subject: Re: [harryproa] SA/D and Bruce number calculator
>> To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
>> Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 9:17 PM
>>
>> <<Have you happened to run across any info on how to calculate the center
>> of
>> effort of a sail?>>
>>
>>   (off-group) Nope.  I don't think I'll bother going that far.  I'll give
>> Rob the specs I want and let him and the engineer help with the details.
>>
>>        - Mike
>>
>>
>> Gardner Pomper wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks! That's cool!
>>
>> Have you happened to run across any info on how to calculate the
>> center of effort of a sail? I have also been thinking about sailplans
>> and am trying to figure how much headsail I can have before putting
>> the COE too far forward for the ballestron rig to weathercock.
>>
>> - Gardner
>>
>>
>>
>

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