Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Fine tuning design questions
From: Rob Denney
Date: 5/5/2009, 2:05 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au



G'day,

Aroha has 600mm/2' beam clearance, beams are 200 high x 300 wide (8" x
12") waterline beams are 750 and 500mm (30" and 20").

I have not sailed on Aroha, so can't comment on the accuracy of these
numbers, nor how well it works. I would prefer more lee hull beam
clearance,and would see if the beams could be smaller. Probably go
with a mostly solid bridgedeck to help with this.

Only other change would be to make it from panels, if I was paying for
it. John in China is busting to give you a quote. Any idea when you
will have something for him?

regards,

Rob

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Gardner Pomper <gardner@networknow.org> wrote:
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> since my design turned out to be practically identical to harry in
> length, width and weight, I would like to check against that design.
> Can you tell me what the height is above the water for the beams, and
> about what the size of the beams is, since I am just using 1 foot
> squares for placeholders now?
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> Also what is the waterline beam of each hull?
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> Would you change any of that is you were redesigning harry now?
>
> Thanks
> - Gardner
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> On Monday, May 4, 2009, Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The weight transfer does not happen until the breeze is pretty strong,
>> and the speed exceeds the hull speed of a short, fat hull very
>> quickly. eg, the 33' windward hull on Rare bird has a hull speed
>> (1.34 * the waterline length, in feet) of 7.6 knots, which it gets to
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>> which speed the drag of the short hull would be immense.
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>> regards,
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>> Rob
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>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM, jrwells2007 <jrwells2007@yahoo.com.au>
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>>> Rob, I have read somewhere that cats and tris aim for a minimum of 8:1 to
>>> prevent stern squatting in the manner of a mono-hull. For the ww hull an
>>> 8:1
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>>> resistance at low speeds. At higher speeds some of the displacement of
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>>> ww hull would be carried by the lw hull and therefore the greater wave
>>> making resistance of 8:1 would be less of a factor. Are there other more
>>> important considerations such as drag on the steering?
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>>> Longer and skinnier is still better for speed probably.
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>>>> below 11:1 l:b, you will be fine.
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