Subject: Re: [harryproa] chesapeake harry's
From: George Kuck
Date: 6/4/2009, 10:10 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au



Yes we are close but Gardner has house on west shore and I am on east shore farther north, abought a two hour sail with good wind (I think it's 15or 20 NM by boat) or around 70 miles by car.  He also has house in PA where I believe he lives and will be building boat.
 
It would be great if we both ended up building same boat, we might be able to start a one design  Harry fleet on the Chesapeake !  The Harryproa should be a great boat for the Chesapeake bay with it's shallow draft and the many cove and creaks that you could go into.
 
I am wandering what type of rudder system would be used. I do like having it on the LW hull but would like to know from current owners how the rudder works when it can only rotate around 270 degrees.  Is this a real inconvenience or do you get used to it to the point that it is second nature and you do not have to think abought it when you shunt ?  For shallow water how far can you raise it and still have minimal steerage under power.  And can rudder rotate when you hit ground sailing ? 
 
Happpy Sailing,
George Kuck
Chestertown, Md.

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Doug Haines <doha720@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Doug Haines <doha720@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [harryproa] chesapeake harry's
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 9:00 AM

Hi george and gardner,
 
are you two near each other?
 
doug
 
like to know how the in hull rudders are set up. Rudolf, Rob.

--- On Thu, 4/6/09, George Kuck <chesapeake410@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: George Kuck <chesapeake410@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Mast stepping on Arttu's boat
To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 9:46 PM

Hello Arttu,
 
Hello Arttu,
 
Congratulatins on the launch of your new boat ! 
 
I am considering building a 12 m Harry and would be vary interested in seeing more pictures of your finished boat and the building and stepping of the mast.  I hope you can post some pictures that you may have and get some of the boat sailing.  Please let use know how it sails and your experience with it when you get your sails. 
 
I would like to hear more from other Harryproa owners of there sailing experience as I am still wavering between weather to build a Harryproa or a more conventional catamaran such as a Shuttle 28 or 31, or the new F-32.  The F-32 is currently my last choice as I have built two trimarans already and would like something different but I have not ruled it out..
 
Happy sailing,
George Kuck
Chestertown, Md.    

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:

From: Robert <cateran1949@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: [harryproa] Re: Mast stepping on Arttu's boat
To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 4:13 AM

Congratulations to Arttu and Rudolf. I wish you good sailing,
Robert--- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, "Rudolf vd Brug" <rpvdb@...> wrote:
>
> Last Sunday I returned home from Finland where I worked on Arttu's Visionarry, Ono .
> Having built his mast and boom he asked me to glue the mast bearings in the lw hull, and to rig and step the mast on the boat.
>
> The work on the bearings was pretty straight forward as all parts were prefabricated in my workshop and sent over with the mast and boom. Evenso with putting mast and boom together and rigging it the days flew past. Always lots of small jobs to do you seem to forget about before and once done you don't remember them.
> Arttu also had a long list of small things to be done, so we didin't get bored.
> Launching and stepping the mast went smoothly and then all of a sudden it was a sailing boat. Without sails though as the sailmaker was behind schedule and so they hadn't yet arrived. That was a pity as I really would have liked to sail this boat.
>
> Ono has an enclosed bridge deck cabin where BD has the covered cockpit.
> So the deck plan looks much like Rare Bird exept for the standing height in the cabin which on Arttu's boat is 1.65 m as on BD.
> Also there are cassette type rudders in the lw hull. They work well but I noticed their smaller size (1.2 m deep against 2 m on BD) when maneouvering. We will have to wait reports from Arttu on the rudder size when sailing.
>
> The two Yamaha outboards are very good for doing the slow speed maneouvering to get the boat tied up to the jetty.
> The rig on Ono is the same as on BD with a stiffer mast then the original specs. It only differs in that it has running backstays so it will be able to keep a straight jib luff in a bit of a blow.
>
> Arttu, I wish you happy sailing, thanks for your hospitality and the opportunity to have a look around your beautifull country.
>
>
> Rudolf
>




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