Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: harriette
From: Doug Haines
Date: 6/15/2009, 8:38 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au



Still not sure...sidecar is a cruiser, harriwette isn't.
I have two boats, one is for sale.
The easy moving to and from the water/beach is the main point of having a small one, so I'm trying to inmprove that part some more.
Pretty easy, if you can see making in demountable with the beams at right angles, just turn everything on and  angle and the beams where the rudders are can work further aft.
So its a two part job, making demountable and while doing so putting the leeward attachment point further back - hence beams will be splayed slightly (same as toed?).
It is fun trying stuff on the small boat, should really make some models.
Mostly the sailversus underwater resistance laterally balance.
Realised the other day that it would bealance better if the front rudder was actually up, hough I imagined the extra boards down owuld keep it straighter!
How do you know how much total board area is going to be enough?
I s related to speed or is that just the turning effect of a rudder that works better at higher speed?
 
 
Doug
 
Where's tsst proa got to?
BTW, how about Capt Raps?

--- On Mon, 15/6/09, Robert <cateran1949@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Robert <cateran1949@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [harryproa] Re: harriette
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 8:57 PM

Still can't see how you can move the beams outboard on the lee hull and keep the same distance on the ww hull.

You've got more of a real cruiser so you have to expect some downside
--- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Doug Haines <doha720@... > wrote:
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> Hi Roberto,
>  
> I'm guessing you're imagining something different.
> It is the same beam justy  moved on the lw hull furtherout.
> Any sockets would take it as per usual.
> sockets on both hulls, beam comes out seperateto all stow longways, so car top, box trailer, freight much easier.
> Eachj hull, beam could get lifted onto a roof rack.
> I moved former sidecar lw hull from the yard site around through the yard down to where there is a beach launch accessss on my own.
> Couldn't do that now.
>  
> doug
>
> --- On Mon, 15/6/09, Robert <cateran1949@ ...> wrote:
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> From: Robert <cateran1949@ ...>
> Subject: [harryproa] Re: harriette
> To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 1:44 PM
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> Because they can't be pulled out straight. If both the ends were tapered or bentto that there are parallel vertical surfaces then it could be done OK but the loads on the beams wouldn't be quite so straight forward.
> I'd love you to prove me wrong.
> --- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Doug Haines <doha720@ > wrote:
> >
> > how would you know:?
> >
> > --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Robert <cateran1949@ ...> wrote:
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> > From: Robert <cateran1949@ ...>
> > Subject: [harryproa] Re: harriette
> > To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> > Date: Sunday, 14 June, 2009, 11:10 PM
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> > -demountable and towed in are a difficult combination. -- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Doug Haines <doha720@ > wrote:
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> > > Hi Rob and all,
> > >  
> > > I think I'll toe the beams in, so thebeams move further outboard on lw hull. This puts rudders further aft. Boat seemed fine during flying hull during last sail, no bow down at all.
> > > So probably change to demountable since have to grind off carbon tow to move position from where i at moment.
> > > May try to raise beam up a little higher and add some more length to the rudder, seems a bit short/shallow.
> > > Any one interested if demountable?
> > >  
> > > Doug
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> > > --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Doug Haines <doha720@ > wrote:
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> > > From: Doug Haines <doha720@ >
> > > Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Aroha trans Tasman
> > > To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> > > Date: Sunday, 14 June, 2009, 10:03 AM
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> > > I thought he'd be hangin' around with the fishermen    
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> > > --- On Sun, 14/6/09, ibaitken <ian.laurel@ xtra. co.nz> wrote:
> > >
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> > > From: ibaitken <ian.laurel@ xtra. co.nz>
> > > Subject: [harryproa] Re: Aroha trans Tasman
> > > To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> > > Date: Sunday, 14 June, 2009, 7:54 AM
> > >
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> > > Hello all, Just been talking to a port officer in Whangarei who told me that the yacht 'Aroha' arrived in NZ on the 12th and got permission to arrive at the fishing port of Houhora where they were cleared by customs etc. Nice friendly officials over here. The reason given was that the boat was in danger of structural failure due to excessive hull flexing. I will try to make contact with Bain to get the story from the horses mouth.
> > >
> > > Cheers Ian.
> > >
> > > --- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, "ibaitken" <ian.laurel@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello all, I have been lurking on this site for a couple of years now so I think its about time I said hello. My name is Ian Aitken I am a 60 year old farmer ex motor mechanic. Been interested in boats all my life. Am really taken by the philosophy behind Robs Harry designs. Anyway more to the point I live near New Plymouth NZ and happen to be going to Whangarei on Friday. I will be there for a few days so will try to track down Bain and get some photos and a story on his transtasman.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers Ian
> > > >
> > > > --- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au, Rob Denney <harryproa@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > G'day,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have asked a couple of people to see if they can get to Whangerei when
> > > > > Aroha arrives to get the story of the crossing. If they do, you will be the
> > > > > first to know.
> > > > >
> > > > > I appreciate that I am considered to be biased, but if you have any specific
> > > > > questions about the handling of the boats, please ask.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > rob
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:28 PM, George Kuck <chesapeake410@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > It would also be great if he can get some U-tube videos of Aroha sailing
> > > > > > and report of what speed it can do. Can it do 15 knots at what wind speed
> > > > > > ? The more information we can get, will help in deciding if a Harryproa is
> > > > > > the boat to build !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Happy sailing,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George Kuck,
> > > > > > Chestertown, Md.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On *Sat, 6/6/09, Robert <cateran1949@ >* wrote:
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> > > > > > From: Robert <cateran1949@ >
> > > > > > Subject: [harryproa] Re: Aroha trans Tasman
> > > > > > To: harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au
> > > > > > Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 5:15 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope he has some pics and can up load his log if he has bothered to keep
> > > > > > one.--- In harryproa@yahoogrou ps.com.au<http://us.mc1102. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=harryproa% 40yahoogroups. com.au>,
> > > > > > Rob Denney <harryproa@ ..> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mark received a text message from Bain last night, "Aroha on way from
> > > > > > lord
> > > > > > > howe today. Eta nz 12th. All sweet."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > rob
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