Subject: [harryproa] Re: Need to charter a Harryproa!
From: "Robert" <cateran1949@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 7/27/2009, 2:03 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Some of the supplies could be a new carbon rudder shaft, insurance, a code zero, and an extension pole for the boom. Legitimate sharing of costs.
Rob's plans for his own (last time I heard) is for more a weekend tripper rather than a longer term cruiser, but cruising round Moreton Bay and round Fraser Island is pretty nice.

The admiral tells me I should start on a boat as soon as I do the final fiddly bits on the bathroom. I'll try and finish my outrigger conversion to a Harriette and then start on the fiddly bits for the big one. Crossbeams first as they are time consuming but straight forward and can be packed away.

Finally decided on rudders. Like Blind Date only on a flare on the lw hull. Slightly more bury, slightly further back from the line
perpendicular to the sail drive and less retractability. In really shallow conditions I hope to leave the rear rudder trailing and steer with the sails.

Now have to decide on the masts. Probably wing masts but may stick with the tapered cylinder. Could even go to a wharram wing sail.

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "fitzgeraldskhayyam" <omarkhayyam@...> wrote:
>
> As Robert says, there are regulations regarding charter. The boat has to be built to "survey" which is expensive and heavy. Also the skipper must have a masters ticket - difficult to get without 'seatime'.
>
> However, some people have been known to take groups of 'friends' out on their boats, these friends bringing 'supplies'.
> Usually works well.
> Definitely not charter.
>
> Of course the new owner of RB way not want to take hordes of people out.
>
> That said, I'd also like a run at being his crew.
>
> --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Gardner Pomper <gardner@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > Well, I am just making numbers up, but the Maine Cat charter that I
> > referenced is for the whole boat. Rare Bird doesn't have the kind of
> > accomodations that typical condo cats do, so you would probably have to
> > share with a pretty small group.
> >
> > In regards to Robert's discussion of the charter requirements, I would
> > really like to get on Rare Bird, but if that isn't reasonable, then maybe
> > Rob should consider building those requirements into his next boat.
> > Chartering might must pay the boat off for real; not like the charter
> > company promises for condo cats!
> >
> > - Gardner
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Jim Baltaxe <jimbaltaxe@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Gardner, Rob &al
> > >
> > > Is that per person or whole boat? I'd love to kick in a share for the
> > > chance to ride along with some others and learn about the boat. I also have
> > > a load of FlyBuys points to cash in over the next several months so a trip
> > > to Oz could well be on the cards.
> > >
> > > Enjoy
> > > Jim Baltaxe
> > >
> > > They said, get a life. I looked on TradeMe but they didn't have any.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* Gardner Pomper <gardner@>
> > > *To:* harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> > > *Sent:* Monday, 27 July, 2009 10:03:47 AM
> > > *Subject:* [harryproa] Need to charter a Harryproa!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Well, we all know that I really want a harryproa, but my wife is totally
> > > against my building a boat she has never seen or sailed on. When I curb my
> > > enthusiasm, I can certainly see her point. I don't really know what the
> > > motion is like, I have never been able to get any kind of polar diagrams
> > > showing how she does on anything other than her best point of sail, etc.
> > >
> > > It seems that many people on this forum would probably be interested in
> > > trying out a harryproa. I was wondering if Rob could pass along a request to
> > > the new owners of "Rare Bird", to set up a charter operation for the boat,
> > > with obvious checks on the qualifications of potential charterers. Failing
> > > that, then perhaps Rob could consider chartering Solitarry, if and when
> > > funds become available to build it.
> > >
> > > For my own schedule, I will (hopefully) be starting a new job soon, and it
> > > is the end of the childrens summer vacation in the US. I am looking to see
> > > if we might be able to get anything together for June or July of 2010.
> > >
> > > From a financial perspective, a Maine Cat 30 charters in the Bahamas for
> > > about $3000/wk. It would seem that something like Rare Bird has roughly the
> > > same accomodations, but is larger. I would be willing to pay $4000 US for a
> > > weeks charter in the Great Barrier Reef. If you could get 10-12 people to
> > > charter one for a week, you have paid for the materials cost. That would be
> > > a great rate of return!
> > >
> > > Any takers?
> > >
> > > - Gardner
> > > York, PA
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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