Subject: Re: [harryproa] Blind Date spray questions
From: Rob Denney
Date: 8/20/2009, 9:31 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

G'day,

Interesting comparison, thanks Arttu.

True wind was a fairly broad reach, apparent just aft of the beam, I
think. I was not watching the windward hull, but pretty sure that
most of the spray was coming up the bow and then being blown aft and
across the deck and dripping off the edge of the cockpit roof. Not
really any other way it could happen without waves. Latest boats
have much less bluff bows, so maybe less of a problem. A lip around
the edge of the roof would have made a big difference as well. There
was no need for wet weather gear, so there was no water coming over
the deck, just dripping off the front edge.

My new Solitarry is having a beam shelf, going all the way to the
ends. It is required to stiffen the hull side and to provide some
bench space inside, so may as well use it to keep the spray down as
well. It is 900mm above the keel, so should not be a problem with
submerging, and as the hull is above it, it will make no difference in
the very unlikely event it was submerged.

Apologies for not being more involved in the list lately, have been
shifting/buying/selling houses, making my daughters dinghy sailable
(works really well given how rough and ready it is) lengthening the
mast and a few other little jobs on El (just waiting for the new sail)
and getting ready to start Sol. I have found a building shed, but
each time I look at the drawings, I seem to find an easier/lighter
way of doing things, so the down time is not being wasted. The lee
hull and decks are now a single sheet of core and glass and 1.5m on
each end is removable. Hope to build a lee hull test section next
week, will let you know. The ww hull (4 panels, plus the ends) has
been made a lot less complicated, as has the mast, although this is an
ongoing process. It has become a single beam boat to allow it to fold
to fit on the dock out the back of the new house, but if this
succeeds, it will have repercussions for trailerability and
significant weight/build time and cost savings.

The guys have taken Rare Bird's rudders apart and the other pintle was
found to be bent between the top and lower supports. A bit peculiar
as it is held between 2 gudgeons top and bottom. Best guess is that
if happened before the triangular plates were stiffened to prevent
vertical bending. New pins for both rudders will be 25mm/1"

regards,

Rob

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Gardner Pomper<gardner@networknow.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have been hoping that there would be some more explanations of the latest
> Blind Date video, particularly regarding the spray, but haven't seen any, so
> I would like to post some questions?
> Where is the wind coming from? Directly off the beam? Forward? Aft?
> What part of the ww hull is producing most of the spray that reaches the
> cockpit area? Right at the bow? Amidships? 1/4 of the way back from the bow?
> I think Rob suggested that a windward shelf, like in the original Harry,
> might help, but it seems like the shelf was really only prominent amidships.
> Should we consider a "bow shelf" to ww? What would that imply for burying
> the ww bow?
> I know, I should complain about spray when a cruising boat hits 15-16 knots,
> but I am firmly in the "feet up, sipping a glass of red wine" speed sailing
> crowd... hmm... maybe that isn't a crowd, but it should be!
> Any spray insights from Artu, from your recent cruise?
> Thanks,
> - Gardner
>

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