Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Rig questions, again
From: Mitch
Date: 1/4/2010, 10:39 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

The owner of that Tiki just wrote on Sailing Anarchy about how poorly that rig works, no easy way to hoist or douse, no easy way to trim it or get leech tension.  Says he wouldn't do it again.


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Rudolf vd Brug <rpvdb@freeler.nl> wrote:
 

Hi,
 
I have built two easyrigs and I expected the second one to be built at least somewhat faster.
It wasn't. You might conclude the first one was built efficiently then, but to me it means that they take a lot of time to build.
Especially the boom. Also I would like to see a much simpler rig.
A freestanding non rotating mast, as little boom as possible, and a sail configuration that controls it's own shape.
Mike mentioned the junk rig, and it's (lack of) performance. But what about the Swing Wing rig? See http://wharrambuilders.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sailing-with-pha-tiki-30-n119-1
Soft wing sails may be able to give the performance needed for fast boats. They certainly are simple, low stress and cheap.
regards,
Rudolf
----- Original Message -----
From: robert
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:52 AM
Subject: [harryproa] Re: Rig questions, again

 


Again I second everything Mike has said here. I worked out that there is enough clearance for two easy rigs with the mast bearings attached to the outside of the main beam support bulkhead while the beam is inside this bulkhead but the complexity is getting a bit much.

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Mike Crawford <jmichael@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'd love to see a schooner easyrig. But I'm not sure you'd get the
> clean air you'd want for that second jib unless you make the lw hull
> longer for more separation between masts. The wing mast leading edges
> of a schooner una will be more tolerant of a bit of turbulence than
> jibs. Plus, all the una sail is behind that mast, so if you have a
> large roach or flattop main, you'll probably get more sail area from a
> schooner una.
>
> But a schooner easyrig is definitely something I'd like to see someone
> else try. I want one, but not badly enough to fund the experiment on my
> own. If only Todd were still in the group with those beautiful models
> he could build and test...
>
> - Mike
>
> / /
> Gardner Pomper wrote:
> >
> > One question I did have from Mike's explanation is : why not use 2
> > easyrigs in a schooner? That would give the ease of handling of the
> > easyrig, along with the redudancy and ease of steering of a schooner.
> > In my case, particularly, it would probably give enough extra sail
> > area to avoid 2 part masts and keep the low heeling moment of a
> > schooner rig.
> >
> > - Gardner
> >
> >
> >
>


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