Subject: [harryproa] Re: 60' atlantic proa
From: Mike Crawford
Date: 7/26/2010, 2:11 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Dennis,
 
  That does look nice.

  I'm partial to rigs on the leeward hull because I'd rather reduce my windage as a hull flies instead of increasing it, and also to maximize internal space in the windward hull.  I'd also rather keep the windward hull free of rig stress, particularly because of the wracking loads that will be imposed by that long leeward hull.

  However, once the boat is large enough, having the mast come through the windward hull won't matter -- you'll have the room.  You'll still have to design for the rig and wave forces that now need to be translated through the amas, but I imagine that can be done.

  What you gain is a short leeward hull, which may make transporting the boat easier, and also safer access to the rigs while sailing.

  You can fit that on a trailer in 8.5'?  Now THAT is impressive. 

  How is that done?  By tilting the windward hull on its side and storing the leeward hull in the "L" created by the windward hull and the bridge deck?  Would you design a trailer to do this, or rely on a yard with a crane?

  Also, how are you planning to deal with leeway resistance and steering?

  Regardless, it's great to see people pushing the envelope.

        - Mike



On 7/26/2010 7:59 AM, Dennis Cox wrote:

 
I guess I'm one of the culprits stirring the pot. 
 
I'm not looking to do an all out racer.  This is purely my design philosophy for my one-off boat.  I'd like some fast transits.  I'd like to do some races if I happen to land myself in a friendly island race.  I don't have any intention of getting into races where competitors are getting points toward some championship or are willing to maliciously cut across my path to force a shunt.  I wouldn't want to do any open ocean, multi-day races (TransPac, Bermuda, etc)   I also want a con-da-frik'n-minium, so my weight will not be competitive.  I ended up with a 60' (18.3m) lee hull.  The accommodations drove the size more so than the outright speed.  http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/search-prefect-proa-33468.html  I enjoy the theoretical work using Michlet and now I'm tinkering with Flotilla thanks to Rick.  Do I really think I'll see 30 knots?  Nah!  It doesn't even take into account rudder/daggerboard drag much less a dozen other things.  I think I'd have the biggest Cheshire Cat grin you ever saw, if it touches 20.  Beating a GunBoat in a race would be my biggest goal.
 
Dennis

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