Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Asymmetric Bi-directional Rudders
From: Rick Willoughby
Date: 8/5/2010, 7:31 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

ben

Thanks for pointing that out.  I did not look at his series 2 because he said it had stability issues. 

It caused me to compare what he arrived at with the 07 series I used.  I have the Javafoil comparison here:
http://www.rickwill.bigpondhosting.com/Rudder_Compare.png
The Javafoil result for his P30210 is not far removed from his Xfoil result.  His shape is not far off what I started with and thought would be a good shape primarily aimed at limiting the Cp for good high speed performance.  I have spent a few hours fiddling with the pressure distribution to generate a better section than the 07 series and could not better it.  The main difference between the ts P-series and the 07 is the larger diameter on the nose/tail of the 07.

You will see there is some instability with the 07 but not as bad as the ts P section. I am not sure how this instability would translate into feel when the required lift is low.  It does highlight the merit of rigidly linking the rudders with a reversing linkage so any instability in the moment is balanced out directly through the linkage.   On the wind 07 section rudders should have progressive feel similar to the NACA00##.

Rick 
On 06/08/2010, at 1:26 AM, bjarthur123 wrote:

 

> I scanned through them and none are asymmetrical.

this one looks asymmetrical to me:

http://www.basiliscus.com/ProaSections/AppendixC/p30215.jpg

am i missing something?

ben


Rick Willoughby
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