Subject: [harryproa] Re: Epoxy and Paint
From: Mike Crawford
Date: 9/11/2010, 9:41 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Dennis,

  The issue is a chemical one, and often is a result of cumulative exposure to the liquid and/or dust forms.  I know one boatbuilder who has always been allergic, and another that used to be immune, but is now so allergic that he can't be in a shop where they've sanded an epoxy boat unless he has on a full tyvek suit and respirator.  Of course, this fellow practically bathed in liquid epoxy and epoxy dust for years, because he was "immune", so he is best seen as a cautionary tale of being arrogant.

  Epoxy doesn't bother me in the slightest, but I want to keep it that way.  When I use it, I wear gloves, and take reasonable precautions to keep the liquid and dust from getting on my skin or in my lungs.  You'll know if you have an allergic reaction.  I itch with just about any fiberglass, but am not allergic to epoxy.  The difference is like poison ivy versus a bunch of mosquito bites.

  If you're not allergic, a little dust probably won't make you allergic.  It's a case of the less exposure you have, the better.  Long sleeves and pants, a respirator, a sander with a dust bag, and a fan with a gentle breeze (away from your face, obviously) might keep you fine forever.  Or not.

  For future reference, check out MAS epoxies.  They have a great range of products for different pot lives, and their epoxies don't get the amine blush.  Not trying to sell them -- just saying they're worth looking at.

  I'm a big fan of Durabak paint for anything that can be rough/nonskid.  It's got great grip, a nice soft surface, hides all sorts of fairing sins, and is almost indestructible.  They drag 9-ton moorings across ship decks coated with this stuff.  They have four varieties: rough and "smooth", in both uv-stabilized and indoor versions, in about a dozen colors.  But, at $200 per gallon, it's probably far from the bargain you're looking for.

        - Mike

 
On 9/11/2010 7:42 AM, Dennis Cox wrote:

 
I've heard about the allergic reactions to epoxy in general, but I've never seen it and haven't figured out the difference between it and when I get "itchy".  I understand it can be a "build-up" thing.  IOW, I may be fine now, and have more and more trouble later on.  Right now, I get it even getting up in the attic with the pink fiberglass insulation.  Once I take a good shower its gone.  Is the "allergic" reaction something obviously different?  Is it a chemical contact while the epoxy is still liquid or can I get sensativity to even the cutting and sanding dust?  That's a lot harder to avoid since its everywhere?
 
Ductile - There wording is "cures as the most flexible laminate."
 
I'd be interested to hear what you come up with, with the new paint.  I wouldn't have thought about house paint.  But for MLM, I'll try anything.  The house paints sticks to fiberglass?  I might could get a Oop's gallon for $5.  :) 
 
Dennis

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