Subject: Re: [harryproa] Change of SideCar ownership
From: Gardner Pomper
Date: 4/25/2011, 9:38 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Doug,
 
I am set up for shipping it, but I would also like to be able to trailer it.
 
My idea was that I would drop the boom, with the sails, down onto the lw hull and just raise the mast. I think lifting everything would be too heavy. Your point about not being able to reach the COG point is a good one, so I thought I might bond an eyelet to the mast at the COG and keep a permanent lanyard from that down to the jib boom. Then I just have to hook to that lanyard when I want to hoist the mast using the gin pole.
 
In terms of swaying, my idea was to have a "guide" attached to the gin pole, so that the mast would be contained after it lifted out of the hull. Then, when it was balanced, you could tie a line to the mast, detach it from the guide and lower it down.
 
I know this would be more complicated than a tabernacle, but it seems doable, since you can prep everything ahead of time. Since the rest oft the boat just scissors down to 8.5' on the water, this is the only complicated part of the trailering process.
 
- Gardner

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Doug Haines <doha720@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
 

Gardner,
 
And the lift point for the mast was just as high as I could reach when standing on the boom.
I think you will have that problem for whatever size you want to use.
You're trailing it?
Or still shipping somewhere?
 
Doug

--- On Mon, 25/4/11, Gardner Pomper <gardner@networknow.org> wrote:

From: Gardner Pomper <gardner@networknow.org>
Subject: Re: [harryproa] Change of SideCar ownership
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Date: Monday, 25 April, 2011, 2:36


 
Doug,

Can you talk a little more about how you lowered the mast on SC? My latest design has a 40' mast with a 4' bury. I was planning on having a 20+' gin pole, stored next to the lw hull, that would fit in a socket and lift out the mast with a block and tackle. The mast weighs 150 lbs, and I figure the center of gravity is (I am guessing) about 12-15' up the mast, so I have to have my lift point about 20' above the waterline.

Is this similar to how you did SC? Do you think it is workable?

- Gardner

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Doug Haines <doha720@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
 
I would like to summarise some observations about sailing Sidecar now that I've sold it to Herb Desson in Thailand.
 
It was the only way to make the 60-70nm stretches of WA coast that I did in going to both Kalbarri in the North and to Albany in the South. A normal slow small monohull would not have made it in time.
 
It was very good at anchor and didn't swing because of the bridle and also wouldn't roll around like this new boat I have now.
 
It was however fairly narrow in the cabin and the deck was so that yyou couldn't put your feet and legs down though you get used to that.
 
But the most practical thing for me around Perth is the mast lowering issue.
The cheap ($1,000) trailor sailor that I got a few weeks ago and am now using a bit has already proven to be much easier to get iout of places around Perth that I need to go.
Namely Mandurah and the Swan River, with very low bridges all over the place.
And Aslop with this small boat cruising that I am doing this week (up to Rottnest Island and so on), it is not long straight stretches  all day like the long trips, and so much more tight tacking into bays - and here the monohull tacker is by far the more relaxing.
 
NNow I am thinking about it the other great feature on SC has been the reefing at any point to the wind (and any wind strengthtoo). I have noticeed this today when reefing the HArtley (trailer sailor) and having to drop the sail while rollinga round in some hhhusty breeze.
 
Doug
Perth WA
 


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