Subject: [harryproa] Re: Gougeon 32' foot 8 1/2 feet beam trailer to water ready
From: "tsstproa" <bitme1234@yahoo.com>
Date: 5/11/2011, 8:03 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 


Short by means to have a place to put it. For us city folk that means in an extended driveway usually an add on to the home designed for motor home or R/V parking "if your city allows it" or by the side of the house 40'l x 8 1/2w is hard to come bye. 30-32x 8 1/2 feet is easier for most considering how houses are positioned on the lots in a mid class city neighborhood.

Distributing the load more evenly over the two shorter hulls to keep hulls narrower to maintain performance.

I posted a diagram in the photo's nonharry folder of a coastal cruiser with accommodation I drew a couple years back. A little more tweaking might be a compromise for a 32' narrow hulled ProaCat. A compromise between Atlantic and a Pacific. I call it CatProa or PraoCat depending on which day of the week it is. lol

Todd

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Doug Haines <doha720@...> wrote:
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> What was the "performance hit"?You can go up in sail if you have gone out in lw hull length.Hence your speed gets better. Your ww hull doesn't need so much length?Hmmmn. Maybe it does need a certain amount of length.'It certainly needs to not get too fat anyway. Doug
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> --- On Wed, 11/5/11, Mike Crawford <mcrawf@...> wrote:
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> From: Mike Crawford <mcrawf@...>
> Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Gougeon 32' foot 8 1/2 feet beam trailer to water ready
> To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
> Date: Wednesday, 11 May, 2011, 3:57
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> the same way an Outremer 45 has the accommodation space of some
> 35-foot cruising catamarssn.  Since people seem to somewhat
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> That video has some nice hull flying in it.
> Not a huge cabin. But of a camper class cruiser
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> Western Australia.
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