Subject: Re: [harryproa] Design your proa
From: Rob Denney
Date: 5/11/2011, 7:48 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Rick,
Awesome!  When are you starting to build?  Some comments and questions:

Why not move crew weight inboard in the light so the ww hull can be smaller?
What holds the wing up when caught aback?
Do you control the rudders with tillers?
How do you get past the mast to lift the daggerboard?
What happens to the board and rudders when you run aground?
Is there a benefit to fairing the bluff front to the bridge deck and tower?
Why the dip in the windward hull sheer?  How does the tramp attach?
Any more detail on the wing? (area, section, panels, structure, controls, etc?)

Agree about the single daggerboard, not so sure about the two small rudders.  The practicality of two big rudders is hard to beat.  Look forward to seeing your solutions.

It should be noted that Rick is one of the smartest guys I know, and that if anyone can make a proa like this work, he is the most likely.

Gardner,
Glad you like the boat, hope the judges do too.  Don't be shy about posting yours, you usually have some good ideas to study.
The 35K includes the design fee.  The boat will be painted with cheap paint, prep and application should be less than a grand or so.  We have not quoted for the rig as the mast as it is a telescoping wing section and the sail a possibly very cheap new idea.  Looks like I will be building one for El so we can figure out the cost of the bigger one.  A tube mast for this low rm boat would be maybe $15,000, plus half as much again for the sail, maybe.  A schooner will be more expensive than a 2 part mast, but not by much. If the 60'ter is a ballestron, then it will be very similar.  Outfitting is the cost of a piece of string.  Easy enough to do once you make a list of what you need.

The removable bows are nothing special, bolts and captive nuts through solids in the bulkheads. 

Most cost effective is probably for us or the US guys to build the panels and you put them together.  Did anyone get any prices from the US guys?  I will contact them about the WB boat if there is any US interest.

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