Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Design your proa
From: Rick Willoughby
Date: 5/12/2011, 6:29 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Ben

As drawn the wing is symmetrical fore aft.  The pivoting shaft is located centrally on the section.  The wing has next to no moment about the pivot.  If it used a tail foil for control of lift then there would be no moment so completely balanced about the pivot.

With the wing completely balanced the steering moment has to offset the misalignment of drag and thrust forces.  I have set the mast pivot to windward of the lw hull so the forces are close to aligned with 200kg on the lw hull and 50kg on the ww hull.  This keeps steering forces low when sailing fast so there is little lift required from the rudders. 

Rick  
On 13/05/2011, at 4:35 AM, bjarthur123 wrote:

 



how is the helm balance of this configuration of foils and sails? does the wing have much area forward of the mast step? if not, i would think the COE would be fairly far aft of the CLR of the centerboard, and a lot of weather helm would result. like a unarig.

that's one advantage of rob's double big rudders: you can move the CLR aft by raising the front one.

ben

> I have shown a centreboard and two rudders under the lw hull. This
> overcomes some of the vortex shedding issue I envisaged with two
> larger bi-directional rudders intended for leeway prevention. The
> centreboard is cambered with small radii edges. The intention is
> that it will work over a very narrow range - the goal is to have it
> at zero angle of attack. It needs to be elevated and lowered to
> achieve this to balance leeway forces from the wing and hulls. The
> rudders do not do much work so are also bi-directional with small
> radii edges but non-cambered. All the underwater control surfaces
> are under the hull to lower risk of ventilation and sudden changes in
> control. I expect the leading rudder will ventilate in waves but
> this should only result in a slight reduction in drag not sudden
> changes in control forces.
>
> I have shown a wing over a flat elevated deck that works as a bottom
> end plate for the wing and will increase L/D over a wing without end
> plate.


Rick Willoughby
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