Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Theory
From: Rick Willoughby
Date: 5/19/2011, 6:34 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Col

If you ever think about progressing it I can give you a number of the problems you have to solve.

There is only advantage in drag reduction if you have a single submerged hull.  

Once you submerge something it no longer contributes to stability. 

The best small boat I have seen using submerged buoyancy is this one:
http://www.stevproj.com/Carz/HyFlier3.jpeg
There is a video of it somewhere.  It is a combination of submerged buoyancy and foils.  It has more proportion of the lift from foils than the big navy test boat.

The submerged buoyancy pod needs to be at least three diameters below the surface to avoid wave drag.  This means they need deep water to operate in.

They are very sensitive to weight and weight distribution. 

Rick
On 20/05/2011, at 5:17 AM, Colin wrote:

 


Hi Rick,

My favourite multihull design has two submarine hulls, with a platform above supported by low drag struts that also provide leeway prevention.

It's to my eternal shame that I haven't proceeded to a prototype, even though I thought of it over 10 years ago :-)

The video you posted the link to has re-fired my enthusiasm.

One of the main pluses is that most of the hulls can consist of off-the -shelf water pipe, of appropriate diameter and strength.

One problem I didn't solve was maintaining ideal depth, but I imagine vanes actuated small floats may do the job.

Cheers,

Col C
--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Rick Willoughby <rickwill@...> wrote:
>
> You should see some of the things I get asked about. No matter how
> silly an idea may seem it can always provide some inspiration for the
> next development. Forums are a great source of ideas. A serious
> problem with professional training is how narrow minded it can be and
> stifling of development.
>
> My take on boating has been expressed better than I could here:
>
> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as
> simply messing about in boats."
> - Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows, Ch. 1
>
> My funniest experience on reflection was trying to mount that V8
> submerged buoyancy boat on a wintry day in front of a high school
> physed class canoeing at the local lake. It took me an hour to get
> on it after getting dunked many times. Once I got it going I could
> gat the front stabiliser to rear up out of the water until I was on
> the verge of rolling backwards.
>
> The theory on drag reduction was sound but my execution had too many
> problems to solve. I later found someone had many of the problems
> sorted:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuUtOmMGR0
> The first few seconds of the clip show some of the issues. It
> eventually gets to the impressive part.
>
> Rick
> On 17/05/2011, at 12:38 PM, jhargrovewright2@... wrote:
>
> >
> > Rick Willoughby,
> > Thank you for your answers and comments but mostly.... for your
> > incredible body of work. It is fun to see some of your crazy ideas
> > work...well. You have tried the strange things that your brain and
> > curiosity and your numbers said could work. You are a trailblazer
> > with an open and curious mind. Each boat shows a progress of
> > methods and materials. I can see and feel the joy you derived from
> > these experiments or should I say...boats.
> > If I continue this...it would really get mushy.
> > JIB
> >
> >
>
> Rick Willoughby
> rickwill@...
> 03 9796 2415
> 0419 104 821
>


Rick Willoughby
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