Thanks Rob,   What was the deciding factors involved?   Doug --- On Sat, 6/8/11, Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com> wrote: From: Rob Denney <harryproa@gmail.com> Subject: [harryproa] Blind Date To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au Date: Saturday, 6 August, 2011, 7:28   From the guys on Blind Date. Hi Rob, Today we made our first trip with the renewed old rudders on the Blind Date. They seem to work well. The windspeed started and ended almost zero. In between it increased to 20 knots. It felt as if we would need to reef the main sail if it would increase more. The ship feels totally different. It used to have a will of it's own, specially in stronger winds. Now it listens and it speaks to the tillerman. It forgives minor mistakes in steering. Shunting works well. The rig forces seem to be overruled easily by the rudders. I think the ship works like you intended now. I congratulate all who are involved! Nol