Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: video clip on youtube
From: arttuheinonen@heinoset.net
Date: 8/9/2011, 2:28 AM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Hi ,

The idea of higher bows comes from the obvious need to be able to walk
on the bows. Now it is impossible. If there was a flat surface on the
bow, then the bow should be higher to keep it narrow. Now it is
impossible to tie the long bow to a dock. Now we use to take the ww-bow
to dock, which it only possible on the dock end. Some rocker would also
make it turn a bit easier.
I have noticed a significant improvementin angle going upwind in light
winds after installing daggerboards. I also have a feeling that
controlling the boat in higher speeds on reach is easier. Imagine a long
rockerless kayak without fin. It is really difficult to keep it going
straight ahead, it always wants to go sideaways regardless how hard you
are paddling.

Regards,

Arttu

> Carlos,
> Thanks for the thought, but heaven forbid that anyone should post stuff "to
> help me with the boats". I just want to know what works, what doesn't and
> why.
>
> There is no reason at all for Arttu or any other owner to tell us anything.
> When they do, it is a big bonus for which I am grateful.
>
> As for the bigger bows, there is no reason why not (apart from small
> increase in weight, cost, windage), but I think you would have to try very
> hard to drive the current ones under and on a cruising boat, it would be
> time to back off. Rocker on the bow is another area that needs looking
> into. I suspect it would work to lift the bows at speed, but unless the
> bows were lower (less weight, cost, windage, eg on a race boat), there may
> not be much point.
>
> Ono does have 2 dagger boards, it would be great to compare it's performance
> with Rare Bird or Blind Date to get some idea of any benefits. Most gps
> tracks and smartphone apps can now be easily uploaded which with a bit of
> information (weather, crew ability, sea state, etc) would make comparisons
> meaningful, although, from my point of view, daggerboards would have to be a
> huge benefit to overcome their drawbacks (weight, cost, complexity,
> likelihood of damage).
>
> regards,
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, carlos <carlosproacarlos@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > It looks like you were going 10 knts?
> >
> > I think ifmyou wantnto help Rob with his boats, you could do a different
> > type of video showing all parts of the boat, and the interior. Maybe a
> > couple of shunts
> >
> > I noticed you have two daggerboards also?
> >
> >
> > --- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Arttu Heinonen" <arttuheinonen@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I uploaded a short sailing clip on Youtube:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ6bkVQsF5k
> > >
> > > We were sailing home a couple of weeks ago.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Arttu
> > >
> >
> >
> >

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