Subject: [harryproa] Re: Wantoo vs Expeditionarry
From: "LucD" <lucjdekeyser@telenet.be>
Date: 8/29/2011, 4:58 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Well, from Blind Date you went to Love Boat ;-)
I remember the Spartans went warring without women.

Why is there a set of railings also on the lee hull?

It would be interesting to be able to explain your experience with double sails surfboarding using Arvel Gentry's explanations.

I agree that
> It is fun to see how one design decision influences all others.

Luc

--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, "Nol Twigt" <noltwigt@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Luc,
> Wantoo is not influenced by the mission of Blind Date.
> For sure my experience with the Blind Date influenced my choices. I probably would have designed a cat or a tri if Rob's Harryproa concept had not reached the Netherlands.
>
> I saw the concept I would like to design for myself reflected in the five main parameters of Design Challenge III: speed, simple, seaworthy, Spartanic accommodation for 2 or 3 sailors, trailerable.
>
> The difference with Rob's Expeditionarry is probably based on the relationship I have with my girlfriend. I could not imagine a ship without an (almost) full size double bed.
> With that in mind I designed Wantoo to minimum length, minimum weight, minimum everything.
>
> The position of the masts is a result of many hours I spend windsurfing on a tandem windsurfingboard in the seventies. This was the best opportunity you can think of to find out how two sails influence each other in a practical situation. We began with the old Windsurfer sails with long wooden wishbones. Later we tried rigs with short booms. We even sailed it with three sails. My impression was that the rear sail is usually a little less efficient. The best configuration was the smallest sail on the front, the biggest on the rear.
> Putting the sails close together did not work very well for the sails. It would make the rear sail less efficient. Very important for the performance was that the leech of the front rig was parallel to the mast of the rear rig.
> In the schooner rig of Wantoo I used these tandem windsurfing experiences.
>
> I expect that the first Wantoo will sail with a couple of different leeward hulls, to find out what the best length is.
> I am also still working on other rig options that bring the COE to the front.
> This will allow Wantoo to sail with only one rudder that is located on the bow of the leeward hull. Since we noticed that steering with the front rudder works as well as steering with the rear rudder, I find this an interesting option. It makes the concept and the handling a lot simpler.
>
> It is fun to see how one design decision influences all others.
> There is still a lot of work to do in the proa concept.
> The concept of the future.....
>
> So here is the real reason why I need a big double bed. I need plenty of space for me and my dreams :)
>
>
> Nol

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