Subject: Re: [harryproa] Boat Designs and Designer Rants
From: "Peter Southwood" <peter.southwood@telkomsa.net>
Date: 9/10/2011, 11:40 AM
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Hi Roger,
An interesting and provocative posting from you as well. One think I have been unable to establish though, is just who you are suggesting has become the pig-headed boor(s), particularly since there are so many of us who respond aggressively to implications that we are fools or liars.
Cheers,
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger L
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: [harryproa] Boat Designs and Designer Rants

 

>From: Rob Denney
>Subject: [harryproa] Fwd: Russ Brown

>This is mostly boring stuff from the now highly censored proa-file
>chat group, posted here for the record. Feel free to ignore it or to
>skip to the last paragraph, where you may find something to discuss..........
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Rob, that's an interesting posting. I sincerely thank you for posting it.....fun to read. In fact, it does bring up something I've been curious about enough to want to discuss for awhile now. This seems as good a lead-in as any. It might interest other members, but I'm not sure about that. We'll see.
 
I've long been an admirer of your designs, Russ's designs, and particularly of his dad's pioneering SeaRunner multihull designs and many articles. It's not just multihulls for me, the fact is that I'm fascinated by most designers and their boats - mono, multi, mini, and mega. That's not surprising as I made my living as an artist and sculptor for somewhat over 20 years before turning to engineering as a second career. The combination of those skills would seem to bring me in sympathy with the mind and skills set of boat designers. 
 
That's why I know firsthand that most artists, all sculptors, every architect, and even some design engineers suffer from a serious overload of self-righteousness. It sure has afflicted me. That's easy for me to say since I'm a recovering ass**** myself; and just like any type of " 'holic ", it's necessary to work on getting better every single day. .

But from what I've seen, it looks like the fairly commonly known chest-beating problem of the innovative person reaches a real crescendo when mixed in with marine architects and boat designers. 
 
I wonder why it is that almost every boat designer begins as such a interesting person in quest of answers and then turns into such a pig-headed boor? Is it simply that success breeds arrogance?  Or do they think that just because they had a new idea that it is the last new idea that anyone will ever have? Why is it that the arguments about technical differences turn so easily to personal attacks? And I wonder if people who argue so vehemently do it from a position of knowledge or because of doubts?
 
At what point do artists and designers begin to believe that only things done by their own philosophy can possibly lead to the final and perfect answer? When does a different idea become a religion? And a philosopher become a priest?
  
          Roger L.
               started with a Malibu Outrigger...then lots of boats.... and now  a folding tri



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