Subject: [harryproa] Re: Tacking a Harry
From: Mike Crawford
Date: 7/26/2012, 8:40 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 


  The one time I'd want to tack a Harry would be to short-tack up a long inlet in light breezes with a schooner rig.

  I've got about five miles to truly open water, and switching two sails over on every shunt could get to be a bit of a hassle, particularly because the inlet narrows to 1/2 km at points:

    http://mapq.st/OyFukp

  It's for this reason that we're upgrading our monohull to a self-tacking jib.  I actually do like to tack some of the time, the way I also like to drive a standard transmission some of the time, but there are days when it's nice to just steer without getting up or putting down one's cold drink.  The catamaran won't really handle a self-tacker, so it remains old-school.

  In any case, it would be neat to have the huge sail area and lower COE of a schooner while tacking when the wind is right.

  Very light breezes would demand a shunt, perhaps with the lw hull to windward.  Heavy winds would also demand a shunt.  But in the middle area, tacking could save some time.

  That said, it's possible I'm making the wrong assumptions about shunting.

        - Mike


Rob Denney wrote:
 

I have never seen the need to tack a harry.  Shunting is just too easy and diagonal stability too low to do it in any sort of breeze.  A few years ago I designed and built a cat (W) with the ballestron rig in one hull.  It tacked pretty easily, so no reason why a similar proa wouldn't.    Gybing is a different ball game.  In narrow waterways, gybing is handy when running dead square.  


The key is not so much making a boat with low enough windage etc to tack, but having both hulls the same length to make it safe.  There have been a few "harry cats" drawn, but apart from W, none built, mostly because a proa makes more sense.

rob

On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:12 PM, bjarthur123 <bjarthur123@yahoo.com> wrote:

so can the visionary's tack? i assume elementary can since it has no cabin. ditto for any traditional pacific proa like russell brown's. one would just need to arrange for the main sheet to accommodate a load from the opposite side.

would be an interesting exercise to design a full-sized harry that could point well enough to tack. unarig i presume for efficiency. fairings on the beams. i wonder if the accommodations could be kept as spacious.

do you think it would be more difficult to tack from rig-to-lee to rig-to windward, or vice versa, or both the same? i presume gybing is not a problem.

ben


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