Subject: RE: [harryproa] Re: Carbon Mast Question |
From: "Jerry Barth" <shredderf16@sbcglobal.net> |
Date: 1/30/2013, 10:51 AM |
To: |
Reply-to: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au |
Mike,
We already had a big
discussion on the multihulls list about this but I’ll recap. I did
a frame by frame view of the video on my big monitor. They are very
careful not to show much of the top inside of the sail. If you look at
the still pictures on the site you’ll notice there are four halyards
going up to the crossbar. One goes to the front of the sail, one to the
back to raise and lower it. The other two go from the deck, to just aft
of the mast on the crossbar. From there they run down to the top of the
sail, to what I think are blocks on either side of the top of the sail.
Those are the dark areas in the video. From the blocks it looks as if
they go to the front of the sail where there is probably a prod that moves
right or left to adjust the leading edge of the sail. On the bottom of
the sail the bottom most rib is a set of two half sections, one from the mast
aft and the other from the mast forward. Just below the forward section
is another prod that moves the leading edge. So they have control of the
leading edge of both the top and bottom of the wing. Then you’ll
notice that the intermediate ribs have a pivot point/hinge where the battens
are attached. It looks to me that to adjust the camber they move the nose
and with the flexible battens the whole sail takes the right shape. Things
I wonder about is if it is better to rotate the whole mast as they did, or to
make just the crossbar at the top rotate? How high is the stack when the
sail is fully down?
Jerry Barth
From:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au [mailto:harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Crawford
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013
10:42 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: [harryproa] Re: Carbon
Mast Question
Jerry,
Thanks for the link. This is a definite improvement over the
previous generation Omer wing sail, particularly since it's one sail instead of
three panels. Very nice demos of the sailing and
raising/lowering/reefing.
However, I can't find any information on it. I'm particularly
interested in how the camber is controlled. The camber on the old Omer
sail had to be set manually every time the sails angle of attack changed, which
was one of the things that eliminated it from my consideration. The video
makes the camber appear to be either automatic or largely automatic, but it's
tough to tell with that brief animation in the middle.
What inspires me most is seeing the sail work. I'm still a fan of
the swingwing junk rig, and since I was pondering flexible rear sections and a
rotating boom (I know I'm not the only one), it's great to see a version of
this in action.
Looking forward to more information when Onesails posts it.
- Mike
Jerry Barth wrote:
Rob,
I think you have seen this already:
http://www.onesails.com/wingsails.php
My question is would the round section mast be easier/cheaper to build than the normal D section like you have been doing? Notice the diameter is the same all the way up, could you make this by going over a pvc pipe mandrel or such? I think it would be hard to keep the carbon in line though. Maybe an open mold would be better?
Thanks,
Jerry Barth