Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: rudderless schooner vis
From: Gardner Pomper
Date: 11/4/2013, 12:12 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

The rudders also provide the leeway prevention. Plus, who wants to be raising and lowering the outboards all the time?

I think that steering with just the sails would be cool when in very shallow water, as when anchoring, and as a backup, but I think the rudders really are a key component.

- Gardner



On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM, LucD <lucjdekeyser@telenet.be> wrote:
 

Thank you for the warning. This was not discussed in the proafile discussion on the topic. But for one, cruising, in my interpretation, requires no close quarter shunting and if insufficient wind to create the required leverage the outboard(s) will supplement. Do you concur?


--- In harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au, Micha Niskin <micha.niskin@...> wrote:
>
> The problems with steering with sails tend to appear when you're reaching;
> upwind it works great, but off the wind you don't have the leverage you'd
> need.
>
> --
> Micha Niskin
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:20 PM, LucD <lucjdekeyser@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > As there are no stupid questions let me ask at least a naive one:
> > A schooner vis comes with two sails and two rudders and one or two
> > outboards.
> > Given that in enough wind one can turn with the sails only and in light
> > wind one can turn well using two outboards, could one do without the rudder
> > function of the boards and keep them fixed?
> >
> > Upwind, Easy Rigged BD requires 5-10 degree rotation of the aft rudder. A
> > schooner would solve that with the differential in the sails. Right?
> >
> > I imagine that in a shunt one could veer off with the sails, drop the
> > outboards for braking further and then veer up in the other direction while
> > the sails pick up the new heading and then the outboards are retracted.
> >
> > Then, of course, there is the Seabbatical rudder/prop combination.
> >
> >
> >
>


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