Subject: Re: [harryproa] Re: Hard Chine & Attached Flow
From: "Rick Willoughby rickwill@bigpond.net.au [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
Date: 3/27/2015, 5:53 PM
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Mike

The V11 version that set the world record had a design displacement of 95kg.  It was 7.2m long and had almost round sections.  
https://plus.google.com/photos/+GregKolodziejzyk/albums/5215901890574280241/5215901936124233586?banner=pwa&pid=5215901936124233586&oid=116934051809991843118

I raced my own V11 in the 2008 Murray Marathon:
http://www.rickwill.bigpondhosting.com/V11J_Dec_2008.jpg

 It was not until the V14 version that I trialed the flat bottom.  It was only 6m long and the hull was 3kg lighter.  For same power input it was around 0.5kph faster than my V11.  At design stage I expected it to be imperceptibly slower based on the drag calculation but I assumed the same weight.  There was also weight saving by using a carbon drive frame.  And further drag reduction by use of dipping rudders.  Under real race conditions I averaged almost 1kph faster in the 2012 MM.  It was also fitted with the first folding prop that mostly overcame weed issues.
http://www.rickwill.bigpondhosting.com/V14_Port_Bow.jpg 

The V11 and V14 version were produced with the 7 parameter hull optimising function while I am using the 32 parameter hull function on the V16 series.  There are a couple of benefits with the 32 parameter function.  It will produce variable side flare to increase volume in the middle without increasing maximum beam. It will produce a transom at higher speed to length rather than the constraint of the canoe stern using the 7 parameter function. 

Few people realise that a 3 panel flared section does not have much more wetted surface than a round section.  The lowest wetted surface is with a flare angle of 28 degrees and the wetted surface increase is only 5% more than a semi-circular section.  So a hull with flared ends and near vertical mid sections gets benefit of reduced wetted surface as well as reduced maximum beam.  A good portion of the V16 hulls end up with deck at constant beam despite the chine being a continuous curve in the horizontal plane.  The wave drag is a function of the maximum beam squared so there is a significant benefit in keeping it low from the perspective of wave making.

Rick

Rick 
On 28/03/2015, at 6:33 AM, "Mike Crawford mcrawf@nuomo.com [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:

And yet a V-series pedal boat is the world 24-hour record holder:

    http://www.openwaterbike.com/news/rick-willoughby-releases-v15-design-document

  Is it possible that the Savitsky research isn't fully applicable to extremely light slender hulls with very low D/L ratios?  Especially with this particular geometry?
  
  I ask because I honestly don't know.  I can't say whether or not the theory is wrong, but it's also hard to argue with actual success.

        - Mike

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