Subject: Re: : Re: : Re: : Re: [harryproa] Re:: Poor man's cruiser (i.e. Cruiser 40)?
From: "Gardner Pomper gardner@networknow.org [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
Date: 8/14/2015, 2:50 PM
To: "harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Well, that is true for just about everything. It would be less expensive for me to build my own house, fix my own car, grow my own food, slaughter my own cattle, etc, etc.

I really admire those who take on and complete the task of building a boat, no matter what the size. The fact is, however, that it is a good week indeed when I have 4 hours of free time I can call my own. When I retire, and can get more time, I want to be sailing, not building.

So, to each his own. I am hoping that I can find a reasonably priced builder. Otherwise, I will have to decide just how much I can cut back the size of the boat and still be able to both build and cruise on it.

- Gardner



On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:02 PM, taladorwood@yahoo.com.au [harryproa] <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
 

I think that having the boat professionally built is the wrong way to go.  If for no other reason the Taxes and Profit that have to be worked into the price of the boat, Generally that is going to be in the 50% range!


The way to go is vacuum infusion that dramatically decreases the prep and finish time. My estimation is from 1/3 to 2/3 decrease in time or in other words from 10,000 hrs down to 3 thousand hours.  At $75 hour rates that is a half million savings in labor alone.... for sanding (I am not really joking)

And then if you consider that infusion produces a stronger part with less material, bingo another savings.  Then if the design is very clean and functional it is easy to get another 50% reduction in labor.  That is saving 1,500 hours ($100,000) to get a lighter, stronger more aesthetically pleasing boat.

Then because of those techniques it actually pays to build a larger boat because larger hulls and superstructure are easier to build than smaller components and larger components are much stronger up to about the 50-1 skin to volume ratio where buckling becomes a concern.

$100,000 to build a nice 40'plus boat is child's play if you do it yourself.  Or it is going to start at $250,000 for someone else to do it.

Talador


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