Subject: RE: : RE: : RE: : Re: : Re: : Re: [harryproa] Re:: Wing Sail Benchmarks
From: "Jerry Barth shredderf16@sbcglobal.net [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
Date: 1/11/2016, 11:17 PM
To: "taladorwood@yahoo.com.au [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Talador,

   I’m thinking of much the same thing.  In one hull I have a low time 2GM20, for the other I’m thinking of some kind of electric drive, either solar and batteries or small battery bank with a genset.  The problem with the last is that it’s hard to find batteries with a charge acceptance rate high enough to run the genset at full output (Nigel Calder talks about this).  Of course the other option is a gas outboard, I’ll decide at the time which is the better.  I’m pretty impressed with the economics of solar, I have 10 KW on my barn, two years in and it’s outperforming the predicted by 10%.  I did build my barn in 2000 with this in mind, so the slope and azimuth are optimum.  I recently bought solar panels to support our power needs while camping on the land in St Thomas, cost was about $1.50/watt, could have been $1.00/watt but I couldn’t check panels that big onto the airplane.  I have to agree with the others that I think hard wings are impractical.  I urge you to spend the 20 pounds (easy via paypal) and join the Junk Rig Association.  They have some great ideas in the members only forum, and if you join you would bring the total North American membership count up to like 10.  It’s a very British “clubby” club, I really like it and enjoy the people who contribute. 

Jerry Barth

 

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From: taladorwood@yahoo.com.au [harryproa]
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 3:25 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Subject: Re:: RE: : RE: : Re: : Re: : Re: [harryproa] Re:: Wing Sail Benchmarks

 

 

Jerry, "So far the concept is a biplane soft winged junk rig, but with everything developing as I procrastinate who knows what it will eventually look like."

 

I hear you!  I am trying to design a biplane with hard wings, and have learned from sad experience to work out all the problems before starting the actual project.

 

Jerry, " I am hoping that batteries get a lot better, cheaper, and lighter.  I think most of my troubles while cruising can be traced back to the diesel or the outboard in the dinghy, it would be nice to go all electric."



I am planning the hybrid route, wings, diesel and electric (belt suspenders and life-raft).  For the electric portion I plan to put an electric motor on the shaft from the diesel engine to the prop, kind of like a pony motor.  Then I can potentially drive the boat with it or make power when I am motoring or sailing.



My eye opener with the solar system was that my solar panels charged the batteries too quickly in sunny days and not enough in cloudy days and there were way too many short, cloudy days. It works well enough for the household stuff, tv, microwave, lights, etc. but driving the boat is a whole other story.

 

Except that on a nice calm sunny afternoon if I wanted to swap anchorages it would be nice to putter to the next anchorage silently.  Of if my fuel filters clogged at an inopportune time it would be nice to power it electrically or when docking, or anchoring if I didn't want to start up the diesels.  And it shouldn't cost much if designed in from the start.

 

Talador

 

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