Subject: Re: [harryproa] Rob's infusion methodology
From: "StoneTool owly@ttc-cmc.net [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
Date: 5/17/2018, 9:13 PM
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
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harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

    Thanks...........  That's good stuff.  I'd love to have a chance to get involved in someone's project, but that's probably never going to happen.   I had planned to make a pair of amas for a sailing "canoemaran" built from an old fiberglass canoe I had loaned to some friends and came back damaged after the kids didn't secure it and the wind took it across a field.  That would be a good project to do using Rob's intelligent infusion.   They will be about 15' long, and the boat will be designed to fold up, and will have sitting side decks part way out between the two akas.   They will fold outboard of the side decks so it will be easy to haul.  It'll have a lot of beam, and carry quite a bit of sail for it's size, and be designed so I can cruise some of the huge reservoirs around here and throw out an anchor and camp on board in some quiet bay.     I installed a transom in the canoe, so making it into a proa is out.  
    Another good starter project would be a dinghy, or "life dinghy".  

                                                                                                                                                    H.W.





On 05/16/2018 09:41 PM, '.' eruttan@yahoo.com [harryproa] wrote:
 

https://au.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/harryproa/photos/photostream/lightbox/527451759#zax/527451759

You might have to be logged in to see this pic, but i think it is the start of some pics of the process. There are more in the pictures folder.

On May 10, 2018 2:13:08 PM UTC, "StoneTool owly@ttc-cmc.net [harryproa]" <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:
|  Just a bit of background........
|
|     I'm not a potential builder of a Harryproa, as they don't meet my
|criteria, but rather interested in building a 30' catamaran or
|thereabouts.   One of my biggest priorities is achieving the most
|payload for the size cat I'm looking at. The two catamarans under
|consideration are wood epoxy, one entirely plywood, the other with a
|strip planked lower hull section.
|
|    Rob immediately suggested building from foam sandwich, and offered
|a lot of information on substitution of infused foam sandwich for
|plywood, including weight savings that look too good to be true, but
|seem to be borne out the further I research the subject.   Having found
|
|a "local" source for construction foam (Divinicell), at a price I can
|swallow, though much higher than the numbers Rob quotes in Australia,
|I'm in the process of examining the feasibility of building this way,
|and how I can pare costs down a bit without compromising the structure.
|
|     I joined this group at Rob's suggestion, hoping to gain a better
|understanding of the details of his intelligent infusion process, which
|
|are at best murky.... at least to me.   Watching Utube videos of
|infusions, some seem to involve an almost absurd number of layers of
|various disposable, materials, others only a few.  Some folks do it on
|male molds, others on female molds, some infuse one side of a part
|only,
|and others seem to manage to infuse an entire sandwich in one go.  Foam
|
|with cuts in opposite direction on opposite sides, foam with
|perforations and knife slices, plain foam, distribution mat, peel ply,
|and on and on. Porting the resin in, and porting the vacuum, are both
|obviously important, and the distribution of those ports would seem to
|be critical to getting the infusion right.    An entire half of a 30'
|catamaran hull would be a big failure if things didn't work out. Enough
|
|of a failure that wetting it out manually and vacuum bagging followed
|by
|the inevitable hand finishing would not seem so bad by comparison.    I
|
|personally find the idea of losing even a single piece of that size a
|bit more than I can stomach, and losing one, there is no guarantee that
|
|the next will work   ;-)
|
|
|       With that in mind, I've been going through the photos, and am
|just beginning to work my way through old posts to glean what
|information I can.   I'm a year or more off from beginning my own
|project, and plan to do some test pieces and more research and reading
|during that time.
|
|
|
|                                                    H.W.


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