Subject: Re: [harryproa] Bidirectional cockpit layout
From: "Doug Haines doha720@yahoo.co.uk [harryproa]"
Date: 5/24/2018, 2:17 AM
To: <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
Reply-to:
harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au

 

Hi,

As long as you can be comfortable for extended periods of time. A nce backrest and cushions, feet braced against something opposite and view all roundthat s the main thing.
El camper sidecar was very comfortable how I had it. Was not an issue with spray even being out on the cockpit deck. Not sure how it scales up to bigger boats. The tiller ext's required not too much attention.
Robin Warde was saying how he could tillers untouched for a long time a boat kept sailing straight.

Doug
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On Wed, 23/5/18, Rob Denney harryproa@gmail.com [harryproa] <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au> wrote:

Subject: Re: [harryproa] Bidirectional cockpit layout
To: harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au
Received: Wednesday, 23 May, 2018, 8:23 PM


 











On Sat, May 19, 2018 at
11:16 PM, '.' eruttan@yahoo.com
[harryproa] <harryproa@yahoogroups.com.au>
wrote:















 









I have not seen good details on how a bidirectional
control layout should look on a harry.



Since there is a large range of harrys, I guess I mean the
ex40 specifically, but discussion of other layouts would be
great.



Whipstaffs make sense, now that the rudders don't spin
360 right? It would be just a line and a cleat for the
sails, right? But I am having trouble getting my head
around a layout for 2 rudders, two (potentially) sails, and
appropriate nav gear, that is bi-directional and crusing or
racing friendly.



I saw the wheel flip for indoor and outdoor crusing. I am
starting to wonder if the captains 'chair' (swivel
stool?) Should flip from side to side of a control column.
Keeping the controls and the forward view in front of the
seat after each shunt.



Simpler to not have the seat move, and put the controls
between the seat and the sails, and one just looks over the
shoulder one needs to according to direction, perhaps?



I really like the ex40, but I do not see a interior cockpit.
Am I imagining concerns with going outside to access
controls? Again, I am a very inexperienced sailor.



Any thoughts?
​There are numerous solutions. 
Whipstaffs, tillers, wheel(s) are all feasible.  As the
rudders can be moved fore and aft for balance, tillers are
possible in much longer boats than normal.  They are the
simplest (assuming bidirectional rudders, so minimal
movement), but the extensions are fragile.  ​Whipstaffs
are a single spoke wheel, with varying leverage possible. 
Also simple.  An Ex 40 does not have the space for a wheel
flip, but it would be easy enough to sit in the cabin and
steer with the tiller extension.   You would need to
venture outside to adjust the sheets and shunt, but that is
only one step.  You could also arrange cleats inside the
cabin, which would limit your exposure even more.  A pram
hood over the entrance is another option if you sail a lot
in the rain.  
































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